Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Amrit Agarwal,
Thanks for sending your paper entitled "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". the paper has helped in producing the calculation in a well formatted and structured way
Thanks Again
pardha ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Amrit Agarwal,
Thanks for sending your paper entitled "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". the paper has helped in producing the calculation in a well formatted and structured way
Thanks Again
pardha ■
Debottle-Necking
Hi Teus,
Could it have come from reading Amrit's article sometime in my previous life?
Dave. ■
Debottle-Necking
Hi Teus,
Could it have come from reading Amrit's article sometime in my previous life?
Dave. ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Hi Dave,
The answer is NO
However, I am interested in your findings in this life.
Take care
Teus ■
Teus
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Hi Dave,
The answer is NO
However, I am interested in your findings in this life.
Take care
Teus ■
Teus
Textbook Example
I once had a situation where rates were restricted.
Vendors were called in and they suggested upgrading the roots blowers. This would have been extremely expensive, as we only wanted to go from 4 tph to around 4,5 tph on each of four systems.
I recalled reading an article suggesting DECREASING the diameter of the first few lengths of conveying pipe. I tried this, on one system, and it worked. Then did the same on the other three.
...
Dave.
Dear Dave,
I think your case is a textbook example for a lot of issue discussed in this forum and others, where saltation velocity, solid/gas ratio and constant product friction factor play an important role.
Do professional ethics and confidentiality allow you to share the details of this case with us here?
I think this could help to shed some light on certain issues and is not just a theoretical case.
Can you, please?
Best regards,
Sven ■
Textbook Example
I once had a situation where rates were restricted.
Vendors were called in and they suggested upgrading the roots blowers. This would have been extremely expensive, as we only wanted to go from 4 tph to around 4,5 tph on each of four systems.
I recalled reading an article suggesting DECREASING the diameter of the first few lengths of conveying pipe. I tried this, on one system, and it worked. Then did the same on the other three.
...
Dave.
Dear Dave,
I think your case is a textbook example for a lot of issue discussed in this forum and others, where saltation velocity, solid/gas ratio and constant product friction factor play an important role.
Do professional ethics and confidentiality allow you to share the details of this case with us here?
I think this could help to shed some light on certain issues and is not just a theoretical case.
Can you, please?
Best regards,
Sven ■
Design Calcs
Hi again Sven,
Always good to hear from you.
Sorry I have not yet replied to your earlier messages.
We had a crash-down on the plant, and attention was there.
Sure thing, I am hoping to get back to South Africa for a few days rest.
The files for the de-bottle-necking are also there.
Will send some information ASAP.
Thanks again for your great support.
Dave. ■
Design Calcs
Hi again Sven,
Always good to hear from you.
Sorry I have not yet replied to your earlier messages.
We had a crash-down on the plant, and attention was there.
Sure thing, I am hoping to get back to South Africa for a few days rest.
The files for the de-bottle-necking are also there.
Will send some information ASAP.
Thanks again for your great support.
Dave. ■
Thank You Very Much!
Dear Amrit,
Thanks for the quick response in sending your paper entitled "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems".
After a brief review, a worthy paper and I am looking forward to working this into a usable format.
Best Regards
Chasman1 ■
Thank You Very Much!
Dear Amrit,
Thanks for the quick response in sending your paper entitled "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems".
After a brief review, a worthy paper and I am looking forward to working this into a usable format.
Best Regards
Chasman1 ■
Thanks For Your Valuable Support
Dear Amrit Agarwal,
Thanks for sending Pneumatic Conveying article papers this is very much helpful in calculation i am preparing the excel sheet after i will contact you directly for further communication
Thanks for your valuable support
syed osman ■
Thanks For Your Valuable Support
Dear Amrit Agarwal,
Thanks for sending Pneumatic Conveying article papers this is very much helpful in calculation i am preparing the excel sheet after i will contact you directly for further communication
Thanks for your valuable support
syed osman ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Amrit,
Thank you very much for sending me the article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". The explanation is clear and very educational.
The calculation method to implement in Excel is easy.
Regards,
Fernando D. Garca
Breves S.A.
Argentina ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Amrit,
Thank you very much for sending me the article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". The explanation is clear and very educational.
The calculation method to implement in Excel is easy.
Regards,
Fernando D. Garca
Breves S.A.
Argentina ■
Article Theory And Design...
Dear Amrit
I read your article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems", it’s clear and easy to understand. I made the spreadsheet and I found little difference, maybe I have error to create it.
I appreciate your time for to spread your knowledge.
Sincerely
Juan Martinez ■
Article Theory And Design...
Dear Amrit
I read your article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems", it’s clear and easy to understand. I made the spreadsheet and I found little difference, maybe I have error to create it.
I appreciate your time for to spread your knowledge.
Sincerely
Juan Martinez ■
Article Theory And Design...
Dear Agarwal
Thanks for sending Pneumatic Conveying article papers.
I am analysing the papers and will try to prepare the excel sheet. After i will contact you directly for further communication.
Regards
Frank Saysette-Rasmussen ■
Article Theory And Design...
Dear Agarwal
Thanks for sending Pneumatic Conveying article papers.
I am analysing the papers and will try to prepare the excel sheet. After i will contact you directly for further communication.
Regards
Frank Saysette-Rasmussen ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Agarwal,
Thank you for sending the article. I`ve read it and I can say that is very similar calculation method that I`m using now in my projects. ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Agarwal,
Thank you for sending the article. I`ve read it and I can say that is very similar calculation method that I`m using now in my projects. ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Thank you Mr. Agarwal for sending me the article on "theory and design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems". I found it a practical, hands on approach and I am now trying to compose my own calculation sheet.
I can definitely recommend the article! ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Thank you Mr. Agarwal for sending me the article on "theory and design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems". I found it a practical, hands on approach and I am now trying to compose my own calculation sheet.
I can definitely recommend the article! ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Hallo Mr. Armit
Could you be so kind and send me copy of your articel on my adress
Thank you very much
Kohout
email: kohout.vaclav@centrum.cz ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Hallo Mr. Armit
Could you be so kind and send me copy of your articel on my adress
Thank you very much
Kohout
email: kohout.vaclav@centrum.cz ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Mr. Armit, Thank you for sending me your article. After a quick read, the article seems thorough and comprehensive. I think it will be of value in a project we have coming. ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Mr. Armit, Thank you for sending me your article. After a quick read, the article seems thorough and comprehensive. I think it will be of value in a project we have coming. ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Thank you for sending me your Article on Design of Dilute Phase conveying systems. The equations are very helpful in aiding me in redesigning our current Dilute Phase conveying system. ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Thank you for sending me your Article on Design of Dilute Phase conveying systems. The equations are very helpful in aiding me in redesigning our current Dilute Phase conveying system. ■
Pneumatic Conveying
Mr. Agarwal
Thank you for sendimg me your article on "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" I am using it to redesign several of our conveying lines which are underperforming. ■
Pneumatic Conveying
Mr. Agarwal
Thank you for sendimg me your article on "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" I am using it to redesign several of our conveying lines which are underperforming. ■
Thanks You
Amrit,
Thank you for sending the article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". I am preparing the excel spreadsheet for the same and it looks like it is going to solve my problem.
Harshala ■
Thanks You
Amrit,
Thank you for sending the article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". I am preparing the excel spreadsheet for the same and it looks like it is going to solve my problem.
Harshala ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Amrit,
May I have a copy of "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" for Pneumatic Conveying.
Thanks.
Anjan
Email ID anjan.dey@gmail.com ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Amrit,
May I have a copy of "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" for Pneumatic Conveying.
Thanks.
Anjan
Email ID anjan.dey@gmail.com ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Mr. Armit
Thank you wery much for a sending the articel. it´s wery useful and helped me solve the problem with a complicated route.
Thank´s a lot
Kohout ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Mr. Armit
Thank you wery much for a sending the articel. it´s wery useful and helped me solve the problem with a complicated route.
Thank´s a lot
Kohout ■
Thank You
Mr Amrit
Thank you for sending your article. I found it a practical, hands on approach and I am now trying to compose my own calculation sheet.
Thanks a lot.
Anjan
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Thank You
Mr Amrit
Thank you for sending your article. I found it a practical, hands on approach and I am now trying to compose my own calculation sheet.
Thanks a lot.
Anjan
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Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Sir,
can you please send me the Dense phase pneumatic conveying system design calculations
kprashanth@tce.co.in
Regard
Prashanth ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Sir,
can you please send me the Dense phase pneumatic conveying system design calculations
kprashanth@tce.co.in
Regard
Prashanth ■
Interesting Article
I found the article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" of Amrit Agarwal very interesting in order to do some own first evaluations of what there may be to gain by reducing the horisontal distance from the unloading facility to the filter by 25 meters.
I have not started the calculation yet and I do have to do some recalculations due to the fact that we in Europe uses meter, not feet.
Can anyone give me an idea already regarding what there may be to gain by reducing this horisontal distance?
Aslak ■
Interesting Article
I found the article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" of Amrit Agarwal very interesting in order to do some own first evaluations of what there may be to gain by reducing the horisontal distance from the unloading facility to the filter by 25 meters.
I have not started the calculation yet and I do have to do some recalculations due to the fact that we in Europe uses meter, not feet.
Can anyone give me an idea already regarding what there may be to gain by reducing this horisontal distance?
Aslak ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Aslak,
Obviously, you have an unloading installation with a filter receiver.
To answer your question about the influence of shortening the pneumatic conveying distance requires more information. (With the given information, it is only clear that you gain 25 m)
-Vacuum- or pressure mode
-Existing conveying length. 25 m less length at an original conveying length of 100 m has a less influence than 25 m at a 40 m original conveying length.
-Conveyed material
-Temperatures
-Installation altitude
-Existing installation data s.a. pipe geometry, air flow, number of bends, design pressure, etc. Some pressure drops are length independent, s.a. intake pressure drop, filter pressure drop and the pressure drop to lift the conveyed mass of material. If the horizontal length is small in relation to the vertical distance, then a change in horizontal length is of minor influence.
If you can supply the additional information, a more practical estimate can be formulated.
The capacity of a pneumatic conveying installation is normally proportional according 1/Length^alpha.
The problem is that alpha is different for each chosen velocity and pressure drop and material.
Therefore, the approach of calculating before trying is indeed recommendable.
Executing calculations without experience (theoretical, practical and operational) can result in disappointments later on.
I support your remark that Europe uses the SI units (m,kg,sec) and that it would be a great step forward if the whole world joins this approach.
Have nice day
Teus ■
Teus
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Aslak,
Obviously, you have an unloading installation with a filter receiver.
To answer your question about the influence of shortening the pneumatic conveying distance requires more information. (With the given information, it is only clear that you gain 25 m)
-Vacuum- or pressure mode
-Existing conveying length. 25 m less length at an original conveying length of 100 m has a less influence than 25 m at a 40 m original conveying length.
-Conveyed material
-Temperatures
-Installation altitude
-Existing installation data s.a. pipe geometry, air flow, number of bends, design pressure, etc. Some pressure drops are length independent, s.a. intake pressure drop, filter pressure drop and the pressure drop to lift the conveyed mass of material. If the horizontal length is small in relation to the vertical distance, then a change in horizontal length is of minor influence.
If you can supply the additional information, a more practical estimate can be formulated.
The capacity of a pneumatic conveying installation is normally proportional according 1/Length^alpha.
The problem is that alpha is different for each chosen velocity and pressure drop and material.
Therefore, the approach of calculating before trying is indeed recommendable.
Executing calculations without experience (theoretical, practical and operational) can result in disappointments later on.
I support your remark that Europe uses the SI units (m,kg,sec) and that it would be a great step forward if the whole world joins this approach.
Have nice day
Teus ■
Teus
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Mr. Agarwal,
Could you please send a copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" pdf and spreadsheet to the following address:
pjauff@gmail.com
Many Thanks,
pjauff ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Mr. Agarwal,
Could you please send a copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" pdf and spreadsheet to the following address:
pjauff@gmail.com
Many Thanks,
pjauff ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Aslak,
Reducing the conveying distance will reduce the pressure drop in the conveying system, and consequently, if you are presently conveying rate-limited due to running at the maximum blower pressure, you will be able to increase the conveying rate. This increase in rate can be easily calculated using the method given in the article I sent you.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Charleston, WV, USA
Email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph 304 346 5125 ■
Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying
Dear Aslak,
Reducing the conveying distance will reduce the pressure drop in the conveying system, and consequently, if you are presently conveying rate-limited due to running at the maximum blower pressure, you will be able to increase the conveying rate. This increase in rate can be easily calculated using the method given in the article I sent you.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Charleston, WV, USA
Email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph 304 346 5125 ■
Design Calculations for Pneumatic Conveying
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in
href="https://who.bulk-online.com/profile/2-reinhard-h-wohlbier.html" target="blank">Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.
Regards,
Amrit T. Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services
Email:
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Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125
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