Belt transfer speed

Jim Moran - CEMEX, USA
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Posted in: , on 24. Aug. 2005 - 20:51

In a two belt system when transfering material (sand) from one belt to the other, what determins the difference in speed between the two belts. Is this trial and error or are there standards for determining the proper speed difference ?

Appreciate the help.

Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 24. Aug. 2005 - 10:28

The critical factors are:

1. discharge belt speed

2. moisture content of sand

3. drop height

4. trough angle of discharge conveyor

5. plan view of included angle between discharge and receiving conveyor (ie in-line to 90 degrees or more)

6. angle of elevation( + or -) for discharging uphill or downhill and the same for receiving conveyors

7. internal geometry of chute

The difference in speed between the two belts is best solved using Discrete Element Modeling (DEM) (see our website)

Ideal conditions are where the material flow is accelerated or maintained or decelerated to match the receiving belt speed and which minimize velocity gradients within the chute.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 24. Aug. 2005 - 11:03

Originally posted by Jim Moran

In a two belt system when transfering material (sand) from one belt to the other, what determins the difference in speed between the two belts. Is this trial and error or are there standards for determining the proper speed difference ?

Appreciate the help.



Assuming you are using the same size/speed belts the belt drive timers/controls are your biggest advantage-always start the belt closest to the end point first and start the second one 20 or 30 seconds later.

Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 25. Aug. 2005 - 12:17

In the first posting I assumed the two belts were about the same speed.

My first response dealt with the chute flow and placing the product onto the receiving belt at its operating speed.

If you are refering to the stopping condition where there is a build-up of product in the chute, then you have many choices. You can install brakes on the feed conveyor to stop in the same time as the receiving conveyor. You may need to apply some flywheel inertia to the receiving conveyor. You may elect to increase the speed of the receiving to get the coasting times to favor the receiving belt and minimize chute build-up.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Speed Difference

Posted on 25. Aug. 2005 - 08:01

Dear Jim Moran

your question is not clear why you want to keep difference in speed of two conveyors

A R SINGH

A R SINGH DIRECTOR MODTECH MATERIAL HANDLING PROJECTS PVT LTD PLOT NO.325,SECTOR-24 FARIDABAD,HARYANA, INDIA
Jim Moran - CEMEX, USA
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Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 25. Aug. 2005 - 03:14

I appreciate the feedback from all. My current system has been played with in the past. The system consists of a hopper discharging on to a 24" belt at about a 4% incline. This belt feeds a second belt which is running considerably faster. I have always been under the impression that the second belt needs to run faster and was wondering what the rule of thumb is for the difference in speed between the second belt and the first.

I also want to increase the throughput of material, in this case sand with a moisture content that vary's. (assume 10 to 15%)

Jim

Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 25. Aug. 2005 - 03:25

Jim

Assuming that the receiving conveyor is the same size as the feeding conveyor they can be at the same speed. Care must be taken in any transfer to eliminate spillage by a properly designed transfer chute and loading station.

If the recieving conveyor is smaller than the feeding conveyor (rare but I have seen it) then the receiving conveyor must be appropriatley faster to accomodate the load.

The speeds can be determined by formulas (software packages are also available) but one must know all the specs of the product, the conveyors and the TPH required.

Gary Blenkhorn

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Jim Moran - CEMEX, USA
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Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 26. Aug. 2005 - 10:01

Where can I find the formulas for determining the proper belt speeds ? I have the following: Feeding belt is 42", running at 59 ft/min. The receiving belt is 24", running at 448 ft/min. The material is sand with 7-10 % moisture. The material is dropped from the first belt to the receiving belt about 10 ft, straight down.

The problem is that the first belt is so loaded that it slips at the headwheel from time to time. Headwheel does have a rubber lagging on it. The lagging is a little worn but I have seen worse.

There is a tension wheel installed behind the headwheel to improve traction. Take-up is by tension not gravity.

Feeding belt is at about a 4% incline.

How do I know the maximum load the belt can handle ?

Jim

Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 30. Aug. 2005 - 01:13

There are many software programs that you can download for a trial period that you should be able to get the answers you need.

Here are a few to check out. The formulas are too complex to get into here in the forum.

Beltsat

http://www.conveyor-dynamics.com/resources/software.htm

Belt Analyst II

http://www.overlandconveyor.com/software/ba2/index.htm

Helix Delta-T

http://www.helixtech.com.au/newpage133.htm

Mine Conveyor

http://www.mineconveyor.com/mcvspec.htm

Regards

Gary

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Re: Belt Transfer Speed

Posted on 30. Aug. 2005 - 01:22

Here's a website that can give you a quick calculation but it is in metric.

http://www.bulkhandling.nl/site/prog...ite=NL&lang=UK

Gary

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