Clinker Unloading

Posted in: , on 11. Jul. 2013 - 21:11

Dear All,

this is clinker unloading issue for dust suppression. we use Grabs for unloading clinker. high dust suppression occured in fallowing operations.


  1. Scooping Grabs (Loading)
  2. traveling to ship to hopper (lekages of grabs)
  3. Discharging grabs



please refer attached drawing. we need to proper unloading system or dedusting system this operation.

Thanks

uditha
Roland Heilmann
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Grabs

Posted on 12. Jul. 2013 - 07:25

Dear Mr. uditha,

there's no drwg attachment to your post. However, due to grab technology there's quite always a dust issue with certain bulks. At the unloading of the grab into the bunker, there might be installed an industrial dust suppression system, based on air intake or moisture fog principles. During the grabs travel, it is up to the correctly closed and not overly charged grab to contain. But if the bulk contains a a lot of dust, it will quite always sort of blow away from the upside of the grab. Then there's the scooping within the ship, but there i have not seen a global technical solution, only a slowdown & a sure hand of the driver might help a bit.

Perhaps other could add something?!

So, you might be wanting to install continuous unloading technology, but there you only have to ask and someone will rush to it...

Regards

R.

Gripping Solution.

Posted on 13. Jul. 2013 - 08:46

What you, and grab unloading in general, need to realise is that the dust generation is increasing with the distance travelled. Eliminate the distance the grab travels over the hatches so that all the dust generation is within the holds and you're there. Such a design was completed during 2007/8 but it isn't for free.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Clinker Unloading

Posted on 14. Jul. 2013 - 02:12
Quote Originally Posted by Roland HeilmannView Post
Dear Mr. uditha,

there's no drwg attachment to your post. However, due to grab technology there's quite always a dust issue with certain bulks. At the unloading of the grab into the bunker, there might be installed an industrial dust suppression system, based on air intake or moisture fog principles. During the grabs travel, it is up to the correctly closed and not overly charged grab to contain. But if the bulk contains a a lot of dust, it will quite always sort of blow away from the upside of the grab. Then there's the scooping within the ship, but there i have not seen a global technical solution, only a slowdown & a sure hand of the driver might help a bit.

Perhaps other could add something?!

So, you might be wanting to install continuous unloading technology, but there you only have to ask and someone will rush to it...

Regards

R.

Thanks Mr. Roland,

we are have planining to two option

option 1

improvement of existing system

1.we improve closing machanism of grabs (rubber flange for closing flange)

2. Dust extraction for hopper (hopper boundry we fixed to 4 slot hoods , dust collector and canaopyies can possible to separate

Option 2

screw type continous unloading mechanism

thanks

uditha

uditha

Re: Clinker Unloading

Posted on 14. Jul. 2013 - 02:15
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
What you, and grab unloading in general, need to realise is that the dust generation is increasing with the distance travelled. Eliminate the distance the grab travels over the hatches so that all the dust generation is within the holds and you're there. Such a design was completed during 2007/8 but it isn't for free.

thanks Mr. John

can you send consulting fee and yours profile to my email

uditha@sigmaetchnologies.lk

thanks

Uditha

uditha

Costing

Posted on 16. Jul. 2013 - 02:04
Quote Originally Posted by udithauskView Post
thanks Mr. John

can you send consulting fee and yours profile to my email

uditha@sigmaetchnologies.lk

thanks

Uditha

Hi

any one have a experience of what is the cost of continous screw unloading system

port deck size is around 150 M. normally 5 vessels is locate to deck

daily rate is 6000~7000 tones per hour

Regards

uditha

uditha

Untitled

Posted on 23. Jul. 2013 - 03:19
Quote Originally Posted by udithauskView Post
Hi

any one have a experience of what is the cost of continous screw unloading system

port deck size is around 150 M. normally 5 vessels is locate to deck

daily rate is 6000~7000 tones per hour

Regards

uditha



There were a couple of screw unloaders for sale on the forums recently so you could ask thereabouts.

What life are you expecting from the rubber faced grabs?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Rubber Flange

Posted on 24. Jul. 2013 - 08:07
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
There were a couple of screw unloaders for sale on the forums recently so you could ask thereabouts.

What life are you expecting from the rubber faced grabs?

Hi Mr.John,

may be one year for hard rubber?

I interesting to see all threads in screw unloaders

thanks

uditha

uditha

The Answer Is Blowing In The Wind.(Bob Dylan)

Posted on 11. Jul. 2015 - 10:46

Hello Uditha,

I was away in Java and Cambodia and missed your RFQ message. Now I am back in England and renewing my interest in grab unloading and container loading and unloading.

As Roland mentioned a drawing is essential if you wish to take the issue further.

Please send drawing pdf's suitably camouflaged for confidence to johngateley@hotmail.com so that I can gauge the suitability of my modification and perhaps give a budget price.

A berth of 150m will not accommodate, comfortably, Handymax or Panamax and I am confused about 5 small vessels reaching a daily output of 6000t.

It seems that your customer doesn't want to fork out on screw unloaders and so you still have the grabs throwing dust about in the shore winds. Did you get 12 months out of the rubber tipped grabs?

On the other threads referred to, it is clear that some people don't recognise that ships cannot be unloaded with a loading spout whether or not the material casts a shadow in bright sunlight. I'm just curious there. Most of the other replies offer to drown cement clinker with water regardless and the rest make very ambitious claims that they can remove dust from the ships hold: as if. Dust generated in the holds is quite sheltered and there is no need to remove it. Control and containment are adequate providing the wind doesn't get down to the hold floor, which it hardly ever does.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Clinker Unloading

Posted on 15. Jul. 2015 - 05:29

dear Mr. John ,

thanks for reply , actually client mentioned rate is 12,000 tons per day (24 hrs)

continuous unloading mechanism is difficult , due to government decision .

I see some eco hoppers , is possible to design automatic closing doors for unloading stage of grabs?

do you design this type of projects?

regards

uditha

uditha

Clinker Abrasiveness

Posted on 30. Jul. 2015 - 05:53

Dear Uditha,

Have you considered that clinker is abrasive material and you may have high wear with screw unloader.

Done And Dustless.

Posted on 30. Jul. 2015 - 09:26

Hi Uditha,

You are coming round to fitting an airlock when you mention closing doors.

It is possible to design an airlock which will practically eliminate fugitive dust from the wharf.

This would cost much less than any screw unloader and be more reliable. Please let me have a drawing or sketch of the existing equipment and I can probably give you a costing very quickly.

I am intrigued by the government decision to hinder continuous unloading but also appreciate that decision.

An eco hopper without an airlock is like an Englishman without an umbrella!

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Clinker Unloading

Posted on 31. Jul. 2015 - 07:49

Dear Mr. Uditha:

I don't see attached drawing. Where it can be found?

Re

Charlie


Quote Originally Posted by udithauskView Post
Dear All,

this is clinker unloading issue for dust suppression. we use Grabs for unloading clinker. high dust suppression occured in fallowing operations.


  1. Scooping Grabs (Loading)
  2. traveling to ship to hopper (lekages of grabs)
  3. Discharging grabs



please refer attached drawing. we need to proper unloading system or dedusting system this operation.

Thanks