Calculated pressure drop

Posted in: , on 16. Apr. 2008 - 08:42

hi i am m. tech student SVNIT surat. i have been given project to convey welding flux for following condition. i have calculated pressure drop. can anyone give suggestion?

i have attached layout and calculation sheet.

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material: welding flux (submerged arc welding)

bulk density = 1082.25 kg/m3

particle density = 2857.14 kg/m3

particel size = 0.3 to 2.0 mm

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matrial temperature = 160 deg C

conveying air temperature = 200 deg C

note: pipe is insulated

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total pipe length = 135 mm

4" sch 40 pipe, ID = 102.26 mm

two 90 deg elbow, radius = 1000 mm

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material mass flow rate = 1.5 tonne/hr

air velocity = 18 m/s

calculated pressure drop = 0.1 bar

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Attachments

pressure drop_1 (ZIP)

Re: Calculated Pressure Drop

Posted on 16. Apr. 2008 - 09:48

total pipe length = 135 mm and 2 elbows???????????????

Why bother with a conveying system.

Where have you got the solid friction factor from?

Mantoo

Re: Calculated Pressure Drop

Posted on 16. Apr. 2008 - 06:54

Dear anil0298,

From the attachment it is clear that the pipe length is 137 m.

Assuming an average particle size of 1 mm (0.001 m) and the material density, the suspension velocity should be around 8 m/sec

That requires an end velocity of approx 32 m/sec.

From your data it can be derived that you are using approx 0.148 m3/sec of air.

Combined with 1.5 tons per hour (0.417 kg/sec) this results in a SLR of 2.35

This must be considered very low, but that could also be the intention, looking at your very low calculated pressure.

Although, a pressure of 0.1 bar seems already the resistance pressure of an air only pipe.

Going through your calculation, to check it, is almost undoable, not knowing the background of your calculation system.

I understand the calculation problems of these types of pneumatic installations by someone who had not the chance of learning by trial and error. The right figures and calculation algorithms are not easy available.

Where have you got the solid friction factor from?

success

Teus

Re: Calculated Pressure Drop

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 07:15

thank you mr. mantoo for your reply

i have used two books for calculation solid friction factor

(1) horizontal pipe - heat exchanger design handbook Vol-2 multiphase fluid flow and pressure drop by hemisphere publication

(2) vertical pipe - bulk solid handling by p. shamlou, gulf publication

Re: Calculated Pressure Drop

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 07:22

thank you mr. Teus Tuinenburg for your reply

i have used two books for calculation solid friction factor

(1) horizontal pipe - heat exchanger design handbook Vol-2 multiphase fluid flow and pressure drop by hemisphere publication

(2) vertical pipe - bulk solid handling by p. shamlou, gulf publication

Re: Calculated Pressure Drop

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 08:07

i also did experimental trial.

i have attached the experimental setup drawing.

can you give some suggestion about experimental setup.

Attachments

test setup (PDF)

Re: Calculated Pressure Drop

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 07:35

Dear anil0208,

As I am not familiar with the books, you used, I cannot comment on that.

Regarding your test-setup, it will certainly generate information.

How this information is processed, depends on the calculation method, which you apply.

As the test pipe is short, a lot of the pressure drop will be contributed to acceleration, speciall with the 2 bends.

Scaling up from 3” to real dimensions, where flows can become turbulent, can also be very difficult.

Maybe, the pressure taps should be located at the sides of the flow after a bend.

This, to be as sure as possible that you only measure static pressure, without a dynamic pressure component.

But, you have to start somewhere.

Success.

Teus