Springs

Posted on 8. Jan. 2006 - 04:53

You have to tell us more about your application

and you have to understand that unless you are willing to give us this information we probably wont help with your problem. If you are just looking for information on springs and types it is available at any library.

Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 9. Jan. 2006 - 10:08

Hello Sir,

I used the spring for the vibrating screen,

Size of screen-2.4MX4.8M

Mass of screen-6 Ton

for above screen I select the helical coil spring

Wire dia-26mm, Nos of coils-8.9 and free length-350

Nos of springs-8nos

pl suggest the my selection is correct or not

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 12. Jan. 2006 - 09:58

Bhaskar

(1) What is the spring outside diameter?

(2) Are the 8.9 coils the total number of coils - or the number of active coils?

(3) What speed is your screen operating at?

John McKenzie

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 12. Jan. 2006 - 03:49

Dear ,

Mr.John Mckenzie,

Thank for the reply,

I mention below the deatails of spring

Total No of coil-8.938

No of active coil-7.43

Outer Dia of coil -242( Privously i mention this is the inner dia but 242 is the outer dia of spring)

Screen RPM-850

Total No. of spring-o8 Nos

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 13. Jan. 2006 - 05:57

Bhaskar

I have done a very quick review of your spring selection, which I understand to be:

26mm wire dia

242mm outside spring dia

350mm free spring height

7.43 number of active coils

8.94 total number of coils

Total screen mass = 6,000 kg supported on 8 springs

Vibrating frequency = 850 rpm

By calculation I figure the solid height of the spring would be 232mm, and the spring rate would be approx 6.22 kg/mm.

Assuming that the screen mass (6,000 kg) is equally distributed between the 8 support springs, then each spring will carry 750 kg.

Therefore under the static load of the screen, each spring will compress (750kg / 6.22 kg/mm) = 121 mm, and the compressed height of the spring would be (350mm – 121mm) = 229 mm.

Compare this compressed height (229mm) with the solid spring height at 232mm,and you can see that you have compressed the spring solid just by resting the screen on it !!!

I would be selecting a spring with about 65mm compression under static load, and at least 30mm difference between compressed height and solid height to accommodate the increase bounce at stop/start, and also any heavy material loadings, surges, or material build up around the coils.

As to your original question regarding temperature limitations. Talk to your spring supplier, but I would think that spring steel should be OK up to about 220 degrees centigrade.

John McKenzie

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 15. Jan. 2006 - 02:16

Dear Sir,

Thank for the reply,

but same coil can be used by reduced the spring rate 4.0 kg/mm

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 16. Jan. 2006 - 06:45

Bhaskar

From my understanding of your problem you need to increase the spring rate (make the spring stiffer), not decrease.

John McKenzie

Spring Selection

Posted on 11. Mar. 2006 - 05:53

As per VSMA the screen frequency range can be applied for the horizontal screen.

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 12. Mar. 2006 - 08:30

Bhaskar,

Some spring steels have better temperature ratings than others. What sort of temperature range do you want to operate at?

John McKenzie

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 12. Mar. 2006 - 12:30

I don't understand how you can reduce the rate of a given spring from 6 to 4. Unless....Anyway; there is no need to account for fatigue in a spring that is bottomed out all the time: which rather makes the issue of the tempering temperatures irrelevant for the time being. Which is how you might reduce the spring rate...if that was the drift of the question.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 27. Mar. 2006 - 04:05

Hello sir,

I given the revised data circular motion inclined screen

WIRE DIA 25mm

INNER DIA 140mm

OUTER DIA190mm

NO OF COIL7.5 nos

ACT COIL 6

FREE LENGTH290 mm

SPRING RATE14.77 kg/mm

DEFLECTION AT @ 7 TON LOAD59.22 mm

MAX DEFLECTION AVAILABLE 102.5mm

HEIGHT OF SPRING AFTER DEFLECTION290-59.22=231mm

SOLID LENGTH187.5mm

Now i am work on the linear motion low head screen

I given below design details of spring for our linear motion low head vibrating screens and Suggest me regarding given spring design data is suitable for respected screens or not.

A)Item: - S.D.Low Head Vibrating Screen.

Size: - 1200x3600 mm

RPM (Frequency)-960

App. Weight of screen -3000 Kg

Total Nos. of spring -08 Nos. for one Vibrating Screen.

Wire Dia-22mm

Inner Dia-150 mm

No of Coil-8.5

Free Length- 300 mm

60 mm deflection on 3000 Kg

Max. Defl- 113 mm

Spring Rate-6.7 Kg/mm

B)Item: - High Frequency Screen

Size: - 1800x3000 mm

RPM (Frequency)-1500

App. Weight of screen -3200 Kg

Total Nos. of springs -08 Nos.

Wire Dia-25mm

Inner Dia-160 mm

No of Coil-7.75

Free Length- 300 mm

40 mm deflection on 3200 Kg

Max. Defl- 106 mm

Spring Rate-10 Kg/mm

C)Item: - D.D.Horizontal Vib. Screen

Size: - 1500x4200 mm

RPM (Frequency)-950

App. Weight of screen -5500 Kg

Total Nos. of springs -08 Nos.

Wire Dia-28mm

Inner Dia-175 mm

No of Coil-8

Free Length- 340 mm

60 mm deflection on 5500 Kg

Max. Defl- 116 mm

Spring Rate-10 Kg/mm

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 2. Apr. 2006 - 01:19

Bhaskar,

By my quick check all the springs should work fine (at better than 98% isolation you have done well).

My only comment is that I have assumed that the screen weight is distributed evenly between all 8 springs. On circular motion screens this is generally a reasonable assumption, but on low angle linear motion screens the load is usually much greater on the discharge end mounts. To determine this you need calculate reactions at the mounting points.

John McKenzie

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 9. Apr. 2006 - 11:39

Dear Sir,

Thank for your valuable suggestion. Now i determined the reation on mounting point.

Re: Selection Of Coil Spring

Posted on 12. Aug. 2006 - 01:49

Dear sir,

Now i am work on the linear motion low head screen

I given below design details of spring for our linear motion low head vibrating screens(3.1x6.1m) and Suggest me regarding given spring design data is suitable or not.

Item: - S.D.Low Head Vibrating Screen.

Size: - 3100x6100 mm

RPM (Frequency)-1000

App. Weight of screen -9000 Kg

Total Nos. of spring -12 Nos. for one Vibrating Screen.

Wire Dia-25mm

Inner Dia-157 mm

No of Coil-7.7

Free Length- 335 mm

60 mm deflection on 9000 Kg

Max. Defl- 142.5 mm

Spring Rate-10.65 Kg/mm