Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted in: , on 12. Mar. 2005 - 14:01

Hello Everybody!!!

I have ben assigned a project to increase the capacity of Extrusion section from 15 tons/hr to 21 tons/hr.

Now pelletising and after rotating dryer, the pellets go to vibrating screens,from whereundersize go toPneumatic conveying.

i am studying all equipments and want to know whether this existing screen will do or not ?

Can somebody guide me what are the parameters that govern the sizing and selection of vibrating screen.

i know it wud b a raw question, but i am very new to this section and infact to the industry even.

So plz guide me , how to see the suitability of the current screen amnd also how to determine which screen wud b beneficial for me.

thanking you all in anticipation for atleastviewing te mail patiently.

my id is nitesh.seth@ril.com

Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 12. Mar. 2005 - 01:17

dear nitesh,

the capacity of screen mainly depends upon the followings

1. width of the area where the material is being fed.

2. mesh size/size of particles

3. vibrating resolutions of the screen.

4. feed rate.outlet size,inlet size.inclination of screen.

all the above parameters are connected with each other

anil seth

Info Needed To Answer

Posted on 13. Mar. 2005 - 12:16

please advise:

width and length of present screener

speed of screen box, slope or angle of screener, stroke size

Generally: wider equals more TPH

longer equals more clean or efficient screening

Mfr of screener

Is it inclined screener with circle throw stroke?

Is it flat or horizontal screener with linear stroke?

Jumping from 15 to 21 tons is not a problem as long as the screen IS NOT OVERLOADED at present setup..

Best Regards, George Baker Moderator

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Increase In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 16. Mar. 2005 - 06:28

respected George sir,

My vib. screen is of JOST SUE,

Cud u plz guide me something of circle throw stroke? and

flat or horizontal screener with linear stroke?

plz guide me a little

nitesh

Re: Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 17. Mar. 2005 - 03:03

Nitesh

You can increase the screen capacity by increasing the stroke or frequency or angle of inclination. If you play with the stroke or frequency you are increasing the stress on the components - usually screens are calculated for 5g acceleration - the best solution would be to contact joest and ask them the question what the limits are. If you try to increase frequency you have to be carefull not to hit one of the natural frequency - impact test would be recommended before any changes.

regards

Ziggy

Ziggy Gregory www.vibfem.com.au

Re: Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 17. Mar. 2005 - 07:35

Nitesh,

The Joest desigantion SUE means that it is a single deck linear motion screen (excited by twin unbalanced motors)

John McKenzie

Increase Capacity Of Vibrating Screen

Posted on 18. Mar. 2005 - 06:12

Dear Sir,

The Capacity of any vibrating screen depend on the percentage open area of the screen deck.

your screen has a open aera of X sq.M after deducting the clamping and other dead areas from the geometric size of the screen.

Now when you fit a screen deck say a woven wire mesh deck, the manufacturer give you an value of percentage open area for the deck.

if you use thin wire deck the percentage open aera goes up and so more material can be screened out [Passed through].and vice versa. but thinner wires also mean low life of deck and more frequent replacement.

but if you have more of over size in the feed to pass over the deck you are left with no other choice but to change the screen--- Why because in a screen we want to keep the bed depth of the material over the screen very low otherwise if there is a very high build up of material the fines will not stratify [ come to the bottom] of the screen to get screened out

Hope my post cleared some doubts

Luck

B. J. Jacob Chennai

Re: Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 18. Mar. 2005 - 07:51

You can increase the capacity (up to the point) by running the screen faster or with higher amplitude but you trade off the efficiency - the particles will have less contact with the deck and therefore the probability they will go through is smaller

Ziggy

Ziggy Gregory www.vibfem.com.au

Re: Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 18. Mar. 2005 - 10:23

Dear Sir,(Ziggy)

I have read your post regarding raising the amplitude and and increasing the speed and I would like to submit the following with the hope it would be of clarity:

i) Raising the amplitude increases the stratfication of the material and I would do that if I find the cut point and the top size are too close and misplacement of particles is high. secondly I do not want raise the amplitude very high wrt the spring constant and size of screen.

ii) secondly I will submit; amplitude and speed are not raised all at once. This is always inversely propotional Bigger Screens run at lower RPM and higher amplitude, and vice versa.

Screen running at say 800 RPM can have a amplitude of upto 18 mm top limit. I would never let it vibrate beyond 14 mm normally

1000 RPM screen Amplitude 8 to 10 mm

1500 RPM screen Amplitude within 4 mm

One more thing material on screens is always in flight and only momentarily touch the deck. The particles move in a sequence of "Micro Jumps" (Micro Throw Principle)

This is all the more the reason to limit the increase in amplitude as the deck opening has to match the length of throw too!!

Trust I have cleared some avenues of thot

Thanks

B. J. Jacob Chennai

Re: Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 20. Mar. 2005 - 02:28

Dear Mr. Nitesh Seth,

In general, screen capacity can be increased by more screening area, by more amplitude of vibration and more frequency. The combination of all these parameters, is a very specialised subject and can be decided by the screen designers concerned with the profession.

There are also other important issues as below :

- If screen size is to be increased, then see whether the existing house has space for that.

- Implication on layout of the discharge chute.

- If you are increasing amplitude of frequency, its implication on the safety of the structures and foundation.

- Similarly, if you are increasing the size of the screen, its implication on the safety of the structures and foundations.

Therefore, modification in existing screen or the installation of new screen involves checking of the adequacy of the existing structures and foundation. This is important because it is concerned with the safety of the plant and the people.

Regards,

Ishwar G Mulani.

Author of Book : Engineering Science and Application Design for Belt Conveyors.

Advisor / Consultant for Bulk Material Handling System & Issues.

Email : parimul@pn2.vsnl.net.in

Tel.: 0091 (0)20 25882916

Guide On Using Circle Throw Or Flat Screener

Posted on 20. Mar. 2005 - 08:12

Hello Nitesh: Sorry, I just got back into town from CONN-AGG show in Las Vegas - all about vibrating screens, crushing, etc.

I would recommend this to all forum participants. All the experts are their expressing their view points.

Check it out at www.connagg.com

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You must identify the aperture or opening in the wirecloth to then go and use the VSMA (Vibrating screen manufacturers associaton) charts. Very good data actually works excellent as a superb calculation guideline for SPEED/STROKE/SLOPE

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I will insert a chart here for CIRCLE THROW INCLINED type screening.........and on the next post........a chart for horizontal screening.

Excellent informative participation by all...........very nice to see the inter-actions take place on this forum.....love it.

Mr Vibration........keep smiling........George Baker, Moderator

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speed stroke slope pg3 incline screen chart (ZIP)

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Flat Screen Vsma Chart

Posted on 20. Mar. 2005 - 08:14

NITESH: here is the second chart.........if using a flat screen

Attachments

speed stroke slope pg4 horizontal charts (ZIP)

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.
DirkS - Schenck Africa, RSA
(not verified)

Capacity Increase

Posted on 5. May. 2005 - 12:17

Dear Nitesh

One way of increasing screen capacity which I see nobody had suggested, may be achieved in two ways:

First, knowing that it is extremely time- and cost-consuming to replace a screen with a wider, longer screen, and assuming that the funds are available to replace a screen, a single deck screen may be replaced with a double deck screen with the same footprint as the single deck screen. The top deck aperture or cut point is determined by looking at the size distribution of the feed material and deciding what the top size of material is to be allowed onto the bottom deck. The principle is that the top deck is utilised as a relieving duty for the desired cut size of the bottom deck.

For the second method, two assumptions need to be satisfied:

1) The screen deck is a polyurethane or rubber deck consisting of modular panels connected to the screen body via some form of the pin-and-sleeve system commonly used by screen panel manufacturers, and

2) The exciters are powerful enough to enable the eccentricity setting to be increased to increase the stroke of the machine if mass is added:

The method used by both leading screen panel manufacturers here in South Africa is to fasten a relieving deck of panels to the existing deck by means of elevating struts also made of polyurethane. The relieving deck is thus suspended above the existing deck such that a double deck screen is emulated similar to method 1 above. For this method to succeed, it critical that the reduction in the stroke of the machine by adding the extra mass, can be countered by changing the weight setting of the unbalanced motor to return to the same stroke as was displayed by the machine prior to the modification.

Good luck

Untitled

Posted on 5. May. 2005 - 02:23

Dear Mr.Dirk Swartz

Could Kindly out a sketch of the second methord you have suggested.

The first idea is brilliant too.

B. J. Jacob Chennai
DirkS - Schenck Africa, RSA
(not verified)

Re: Icrease In Capacity Of Vibrating Screens

Posted on 5. May. 2005 - 02:34

Hi B.J.

I have attached a jpeg of a slide which formed a part of a presentation I attended a couple of weeks ago.

The suppliers' name can be given to you if you so request, but as this is not an advertising bulletin, send me e-mail at dirk.swartz@schenck.co.za, and I'll forward you the contact details

Good luck

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doubledex (ZIP)

Increase Tph By 40%

Posted on 7. May. 2005 - 07:37

Hello again: Interesting imput from all our friends......excellent.

A 40% increase is kinda large......some more questions arise:

- width and length of your Joest?

- actual wirecloth opening and wire diameter and hole shape?

- is your present unit doing a good, fair, or lousy job?



TO increase the TPH.......we must know if it is doing the job now.

From this point we can make some decisions from actual experience and then increase width of machine to increase TPH if necessary after reviewing present operating conditions.

TKS..........GEORGE

review the VSMA SIZING CALCULATION and this will show you ALL variables that go into forumula to determine if your screening machine is the CORRECT WIDTH AND LENGTH for the material, material characteristics, split desired to make your product and TPH you wish to achieve.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.