Flexmat Screen Breakage Problem

RJenik - Lafarge, Canada
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Posted in: , on 12. May. 2007 - 18:23

At a sand & gravel pit, we recently installed Flexmat screens to eliminate a blinding problem on our screens. At our scalping screens (twin 2-deck 7x20), we installed 1 1/2" on the top deck and 15/16" on the bottom. At the recirculating screen for the crushed stone (3-deck 6x16) we installed 2" on the top deck, 1 1/2" on the middle deck, and 15/16" on the bottom deck.

The screens all have a single crown, and the cloth was installed by the same crew on both 7x20 screens, and a different crew for the 6x16 screen. The crew installing the cloth on the 7x20 screens hand tightened the Flexmats, while the crew installing the cloth on the 6x16 screen used an impact gun. Standard rail rubber (1/2" flat top) was used on all screens and after running material over the screens for 1 day, we went back to the screens and snug tightened them (no screens were significantly loose).

We ran material over the screens for 1 more day and then noticed that 5 of the 10 screen cloths installed on the bottom decks of the 7x20 scalping screens were broken along the hook. The 5 screen cloths that broke were in different positions on the twin screens (position 1 & 4 on one screen and position 2,3,4 on the other screen). All other screens on the top deck of the twin screens were in good condition, as were all 3 decks on 6x16 screen.

The manufacturer claims all screens were within tolerances with respect to length, width, squareness, and were all made from the same spool of wire.

Why did these screen cloths break? If it was an installation issue, all 10 screen cloths on the bottom decks of the twin scalping screens should have broken. Why did none of the other screen cloths break?

Screens The Stuff Of Separation Or Exasperation If Your Crawlin…

Posted on 13. May. 2007 - 01:48

Wire is one thing, bad welds are another; after the material hit the primary screen it slowed down in velocity so less damage occured.

My first inclination is to assume the aggregate being screened is harder -Mos or Rockwell and or has a lot of clay.

which screen has the water circuit for cutting sand?

Candidly it sounds as if the welds for the screen cloth failed. my cohort Mr. George Baker will be more able to diagnose this but we are still short in information as related to operating speeds, flow dividers for mass movement across the screen decks-is the flowing evenly across the top of the screeners, both primary and tertiary? has a stroke check been done on all the screeners

A thousand apologies george and alas no more "Camp" maple syrup and no Hudson Bay Point Blankets for me if I missdiagnosed this mass failure.

Screencloth Breakage

Posted on 15. May. 2007 - 07:06

I read your question a few times and tend to believe the installation method may be the SUSPECT.

If we assume the plus/minus tolerance from the factory was in deed correct.....the screen sections were SQUARE AND if we assume the quality was fine.....then we must look elsewhere.

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There is an actual methodology to installing wirecloth sections....install then try to retighten like you did is normal to pull up any slack after 8hrs running is perfect handling.

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I want to say.....the hand tightening is thee problem here..without further info of course. Using impact would basically give you PLUS MINUS equal torque tightening theoretically.

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BUT, if hand tightening....you know....big guys TIGHTEN more, smaller guys tighten less, all tighten better when starting and all tighten less near the end......after getting more tired. OVERALL result would be more UNEVEN torque value and this could allow for slightly loose fit.......and the fact you TORE along the edges makes me think that could be the case.

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The other possible answer is.......if the crew was not CENTERING the wirecloth section first prior to tightening...this could cause the hooked edges to engage the tensioning RAIL ....NOT SEATED correctly in the bend of the hook. If this happens and it does....then the wirecloth DOES NOT SIT DOWN tightly on the sideplate ledge angles and will flex up and down and RIP....as a result.

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We assume the rail rubbers were in GOOD CONTACT with underside of the FLEXMAT WIRECLOTH.....if not....steel on steel contact.....equals RIP.......

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Assume the Outside edge to outside edge hook dimension was correct.....if the section is EVEN SLIGHTLY OVERSIZE on the width...you can not tighten it....and it will RIP at the edges due to flexing.....it must be drum head tight.

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Maybe...give me the INSIDE the sideplate dimension please and then give me the OUTSIDE HOOK dimensions to cross check...ordered correctly.....This is kinda important and may be a problem especially if ordering from FLEXMAT folks for the first time...but, really should not happen.

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If you have any broken cross members in your big machine, those members will in fact could cause broken wirecloth as a result. IS THE STROKE balanced on the 7x20...are we abusing the wirecloth by being unbalanced? What is the speed and circle size...that may have been the reason for blinding in the first place.

Hoping this is of some help.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

What Ever Happened????

Posted on 25. May. 2007 - 12:31

Would it be possible to advise what happened with this troubleshooting adventure?

I would love to know the result and I am sure our members would also.

THANKYOU kindly.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.