Flat or Horizontal installation VS inclined

Posted in: , on 17. Feb. 2006 - 03:15

What effect does this have on efficient screening?

FLAT:

The material actually sees a full opening as it comes up to the opening and then attempts to pass the opening. High probability to pass as the material sees a full opening.

INCLINED:

The material actually see a "FORE-shortened" opening or smaller

and will attempt to pass but, with more difficulty say, at 20 degree slope angle on the screen. Why more difficult? the material actually is looking at a smaller opening than the opening in the actual WIRECLOTH OPENING.

Often, if you have say a 7/8" opg on the 20 deg screen, the operator can cheat up to 15/16" opening and still stay on spec.

Go to your stockpile and check by sieve test to confirm this.

High Inclined: The above theory becomes even more evident at steeper angles.

Some 20 plus inclined angle screens actually are meant to run the motor reverse, which actually lays the material nicely back into the opening in the wirecloth.....try it sometime.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Re: Flat Or Horizontal Installation Vs Inclined

Posted on 14. Mar. 2006 - 09:24

George,

Could you kindly give a few explaination on "the material actually is looking at a smaller opening than the opening in the actual WIRECLOTH OPENING"?

Why a smaller opening?

what's wirecloth opening?

Thanks a lot.

Li Jian

Foreshortening Of Opening Explanation

Posted on 15. Mar. 2006 - 12:42

Wirecloth opening means: let's say:

1" clear opening: means the clear distance BETWEEN the wires

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30 MESH wirecloth: means 30 opening per linear inch

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FORESHORTENING: When we say material sees a smaller opening than say a 1" clear it means this.

If going over a FLAT SURFACE (zero degree flat horizontal screen)

the piece of stone or rock or sand actually comes up to the opening in the wirecloth, can see the full 1" opening in it and try to pass.

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If going over a 20 degree slope INCLINE screen. IT means the material comes up to the same 1" opening and only sees like a 15/16" opening because of the slope travelling down the deck.

OR, if putting material over the same wirecloth opening of 1" say over a STEEP sloped screener 33-45 degree slope the material will see even a considerably SMALLER OPENING to try and pass.

Hope this helps.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Screen Preference

Posted on 21. Mar. 2006 - 08:21

Greetings George from my corner of the "Frozen Eastern Wilderness"@1140 feet above mean sea level.

i have always felt that flat screens are a better way to do the job with fewer fines and better product quality, of course it does not help when the screen is overloaded in any case as happens in most cases and they complain about product quality.

Flat Vs Inclined Preference

Posted on 22. Mar. 2006 - 04:21

Hi Izaharis: If you ask 10 people which is better, you will typically get about 50/50 split and they all are right. Customer have comfort levels with certain devices.

FLAT: I agree with your statement. FOOT TRAVEL on flat screen at zero degrees flat is 45 FPM (feet per minute travel rate)

CIRCLE: FOOT TRAVEL on 20 degree declined screen is 60-75 FPM (feet per minute travel rate) DUE to gravity helping.

People do like flat for efficiency and washing and dewatering and for sure if on a portable application (to go under bridges when on the highways)

IF you have a problem inside a building with low head room, a horizontal will help a lot.

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ECONOMICALLY: I would always buy a inclined screen if applicable and it will do the job because: no timing gears, smaller motors, one shaft vs two, less maintenance and less capital cost to buy. Save......plus minus $20,000 if buying an inclined vs a twin shaft, gear driven FLAT SCREEN.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Screens

Posted on 22. Mar. 2006 - 07:46

Hello george,

What always botheres me is that they-buyers have tunnel vision(pardon the pun) or they can not see the forest for the trees-(we always suffered from quota-10,000 tons per per day plus) and lack of maintenance until it broke down-this is why I personaly likew the Bradford so much-I mean my god they have been running since 1905 in some places world wide-in my opinion- I was wondering if anyone in your neighborhood was running Brradford Breakers?

leon

Bradford Breakers

Posted on 26. Mar. 2006 - 06:55

I personally do not know of any, but I am not looking either.

Keep smiling

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.
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Re: Flat Or Horizontal Installation Vs Inclined

Posted on 27. Mar. 2006 - 10:05

Hi Izaharis,

there are Bradford Breakers running at Grootegeluk colliery in South Africa, they've been running for many years now processing the open pit coal. There are also several other machines running at other collieries here.

regards