Wear of liners: Prevention and PM's

Posted in: , on 18. Oct. 2018 - 10:30

We have a plant that discharges approximately 1 million tonnes of grain, soya and wheat (UK Based). We have an ongoing issue of chuting wearing through and becoming holed.

We have tried replacing worn chutes and similarly installing liners over the chutes. Used plastic, mild steel, hardened 400 steel and now 500. They continue to wear.

Has anyone a suggestion for:

1. Better materials that can be used for this purpose? They are typically square chutes.

2. A way of catching worn liners before they become holed i.e. a preventative maintenance suggestion that can help spot significant wear. (The plant has 33 conveyors - large site to visually check them all often).

Thank you in advance.

Re: Wear Of Liners: Prevention And Pm's

Erstellt am 21. Oct. 2018 - 08:50

If you are getting high wear with wheat & soy beans then your whole plant should be examined.

What are your belt speeds. Are your discharge trajectories OK? Thirty three belts required a competent specialist's input. Was this available. Its too late now & you will just have to live with it.

Rectification cost for a grain import terminal would be high because of the need to maintain your inbye capability. It is cheaper to live with your situation & recommend that your management improve their contractor selection procedure.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

What Are Your Belt Speeds.

Erstellt am 22. Oct. 2018 - 08:11
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
If you are getting high wear with wheat & soy beans then your whole plant should be examined.

What are your belt speeds. Are your discharge trajectories OK? Thirty three belts required a competent specialist's input. Was this available. Its too late now & you will just have to live with it.

Rectification cost for a grain import terminal would be high because of the need to maintain your inbye capability. It is cheaper to live with your situation & recommend that your management improve their contractor selection procedure.

Thanks for your response John, I totally agree with you that the initial design could well be a large problem with the wear, it was designed and build several decades ago.

Re: Wear Of Liners: Prevention And Pm's

Erstellt am 22. Oct. 2018 - 08:10

You should have someone take a serious look at the chute designs themselves. Many wear problems can be corrected with proper chute design through material flow analysis. Much cheaper than trial and error.

At a salt mine where I worked (9 million tons per year) we had what we thought was wear until we went with a 316 stainless steel liner or replaced the chute with 316 stainless and the problem went away. What we discovered was that we had more of a corrosion / erosion issue. Meaning the chute would start to rust and then the rust would be removed during the loading cycles. Repeating this process over and over again created loss of material over a short period of time. The higher the moisture area the greater the problem was.

We started replacing chutes with stainless steel and the problem almost completely went away as the life of the chutes increased dramatically.

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Re: Wear Of Liners: Prevention And Pm's

Erstellt am 23. Oct. 2018 - 01:16

Thank you both for your guidance. Flow analysis may be a step in preventing future wear. It may have to be something we look into and use it to help assist us, I would have to do some research on it however to see how it functions and what it finds. But thank you.

You Can't Eliminate Wear.

Erstellt am 23. Oct. 2018 - 01:49

Nothing lasts forever: I certainly hope not.

Why spend time & money to tart up an old girl who has done plenty of business. (do I sound like a real Scouser?)

Your plant is surely on its last legs but still working. If you pull things apart in old age they might collapse unexpectedly.

I am now even more convinced that it would be better to live with the wear issue. Suppose the newer, better, cleverer chutes & liners last longer but something else falls apart. Then you are left with good liners & a broken down plant.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

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Erstellt am 4. Jan. 2019 - 02:06
Quote Originally Posted by keironarndellView Post
We have a plant that discharges approximately 1 million tonnes of grain, soya and wheat (UK Based). We have an ongoing issue of chuting wearing through and becoming holed.

We have tried replacing worn chutes and similarly installing liners over the chutes. Used plastic, mild steel, hardened 400 steel and now 500. They continue to wear.

Has anyone a suggestion for:

1. Better materials that can be used for this purpose? They are typically square chutes.

2. A way of catching worn liners before they become holed i.e. a preventative maintenance suggestion that can help spot significant wear. (The plant has 33 conveyors - large site to visually check them all often).

Thank you in advance.



Hello Keiron,

Kalenborn has numerous places working with our wear resistant linings. Big oversea ports for example, handling tons and tons of different types of grain (and materials a lot more abrasive than that). Companies like B?hler, Coperion, Neuero, they all rely on our materials and customized systems.

You can write me an email on stefan.kurtenbach@kalenborn.com. To start talking about the specifics of your Problem. To see if we need to do something on the Engineering. But pretty sure most of it should be +/- ok. And pretty sure we find a common approach to longer the lifetime of your equipment considerably.

Looking Forward to hear from you.

Best regards

Stefan Kurtenbach

Kalenborn Kalprotect GmbH & Co. KG

PS:

No more falling liners, don't worry. One inspection per year to see everything still is working fine, somethingt like that...

Re: Wear Of Liners: Prevention And Pm's

Erstellt am 22. Mar. 2019 - 09:58
Quote Originally Posted by keironarndellView Post
We have a plant that discharges approximately 1 million tonnes of grain, soya and wheat (UK Based). We have an ongoing issue of chuting wearing through and becoming holed.

We have tried replacing worn chutes and similarly installing liners over the chutes. Used plastic, mild steel, hardened 400 steel and now 500. They continue to wear.

Has anyone a suggestion for:

1. Better materials that can be used for this purpose? They are typically square chutes.

2. A way of catching worn liners before they become holed i.e. a preventative maintenance suggestion that can help spot significant wear. (The plant has 33 conveyors - large site to visually check them all often).

Thank you in advance.



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Erstellt am 10. Apr. 2019 - 02:07

Get yourself a Kallenborn Handbook, study & compare. They don't mess about. If you have the dosh they are the bees knees. Chinese tiles might be comparable but you would have problems getting an installation staff on site.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

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Erstellt am 17. Apr. 2019 - 03:58
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
Get yourself a Kallenborn Handbook, study & compare. They don't mess about. If you have the dosh they are the bees knees. Chinese tiles might be comparable but you would have problems getting an installation staff on site.

Hi John, I have had a similar issue with wear in fertilizer chute where the chutes were wearing out quickly. ie:- rusting and then the rust was eroded each time the transports arrived. Back in those days, ceramics were not something that was common or available. Expensive Marine grade stainless steels were available but wear was still an issue to deal with. However, we used a system we employed in the quarrying where we made the chute base a 'Drop Down' 'Rock Box' that allowed the fertilizer to wear on it's self while in use and when the conveyor was stopped, or became blocked due to moisture packing, the feed was stopped and the 'Drop Box Floor' was flicked up using the cam lift mechanism to discharge the blockage or the end of run product retained in the 'Rock Box'. The conveyor & 'Rock Box' were still operational with just general maintenance lubrication and cleaning at close of the fertilizer plant some 30 years later. I will look at some of my drawings of similar 'Rock Box' in my hand drawings archives & scan then and post. Might take a while as I will be away due to medical conditions.

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Wishing You Well.

Erstellt am 19. Apr. 2019 - 09:40

Get well soon Les. I can only praise the staff at Charlies in Perth for saving my life back in 2007. Take your time & listen to what they say because Ozzie medics are finest.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Wear Of Liners: Prevention And Pm's

Erstellt am 22. Jul. 2019 - 11:04

The geometry of each chute should be examined to establish if wear is due to impact or sliding friction. Then consider whether the wear surface can be shielded by a wear box or flow impediments that cause the flow to be converted to a repose flow over a static bed of product. Local impact may possibly be countered by intermediate deflector plates that absorb some energy and are easily replaced, or by local extra wear plates that are systematically replaced on a time basis. As wear is a power function of contact pressure and velocity, anything to reduce these will be beneficial.

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Erstellt am 23. Jul. 2019 - 08:27
Quote Originally Posted by Lyn BatesView Post
The geometry of each chute should be examined to establish if wear is due to impact or sliding friction. Then consider whether the wear surface can be shielded by a wear box or flow impediments that cause the flow to be converted to a repose flow over a static bed of product. Local impact may possibly be countered by intermediate deflector plates that absorb some energy and are easily replaced, or by local extra wear plates that are systematically replaced on a time basis. As wear is a power function of contact pressure and velocity, anything to reduce these will be beneficial.

You sure know that if velocity falls under a certain critical level chutes easily start to overload. Again, probably not two transfer chutes work the same way. Take a good look at what you have and at what you see hapening to the flow, the liners, the belt and the conveyed material itself. And ask someone that does take care. Don't believe all the salesmen telling you "my liner plate can do it, no problem".

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