Ammonium Sulphate Silo - Flow Problems

Posted in: , on 21. Jan. 2011 - 02:47

Hello All,

We have a SS silo for storing ammonium sulphate salt, which is a byproduct of our steel facility. The silo is fed by a bucket elevator and the silo is emptied once a day by trucking the salt out of the facility. The silo is 11' dia cylindrical and has a cone on the top and bottom ends. Bottom discharge hole is 24".

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See file attached for silo drawing.

We experience problems due to salt sticking on the inside and operators using sledge hammers on a regular basis. The angle of the bottom cone at present is 45 deg to horizontal. The angle of repose of the material varies from 29 - 38 deg. We are presently thinking of bin inserts with a steeper angle of flow for mass flow or replace with new.

Please provide your expert comments and suggestions.

Thanks.

Sanjay Calvin

Re: Ammonium Sulphate Silo - Flow Problems

Erstellt am 21. Jan. 2011 - 02:36

45 degrees is not enough angle. I have been in the salt industry for over 30 years (and just down the road from you in Goderich)- I would imagine you are getting ratholing pretty good there.

If you have the height I would be looking more into the 55 to 60 cone angle.

You may want to look into mass flow design. Also have a read here http://www.bulk-online.com/Ask/askme.php?id=12

BTW - you did not attach a sketch.

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Ammonium Sulphate Silo

Erstellt am 21. Jan. 2011 - 02:36

Hi Gary,

Thank you for your post.

The drawing is attached in the wrong place, sorry about that.

See para below, at the end it says Attachment 25406 or pdf.

Which company are you with ?

Thanks.

Sanjay

We have a SS silo for storing ammonium sulphate salt, which is a byproduct of our steel facility. The silo is fed by a bucket elevator and the silo is emptied once a day by trucking the salt out of the facility. The silo is 11' dia cylindrical and has a cone on the top and bottom ends. Bottom discharge hole is 24".Attachment 25406

Re: Ammonium Sulphate Silo - Flow Problems

Erstellt am 22. Jan. 2011 - 05:02

I am at the salt mine in Goderich.

Your attachment is not working. When you are typing your post scroll down until you see a button that says "manage attachments" click on it and a pop up will open then click "browse" then locate your file on your system then click "upload" then close that pop up window and then click "post".

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President - Bulk Handlng Technology Inc.
Email: garyblenkhorn@gmail.com
Linkedin Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-blenkhorn-6286954b

Offering Conveyor Design Services, Conveyor Transfer Design Services and SolidWorks Design Services for equipment layouts.

Salt Silo

Erstellt am 24. Jan. 2011 - 03:01

As the silo is emptied daily mass flow is not required to prevent dead pockets of storage but would overcome the problem, although at a cost. Replacing the cone would be expensive and either lower the outlet or shorten the body section, so is not seen as an attractive solution. Inserts offer many options, see article is Chemical Engineering, July 2010, PP 32 - 37, but are not recommended to be designed by non-experts. A 'Bates' type insert, that stimulates wall slip by acting as a hoop stress cutter would be the simplest form of conversion and may be adequate, but would require verification by testing. A classical cone-in-cone is superficially possible, but is most unlikely to be suitable for a 45 degree cone as the wall angles are not steep enough to guarantee wall slip and would require the existing cone to be removed to be fitted. The next best options seems to be a hybrid comprising a combination of a central funnel flow cone-in-cone that extends to 'Lynflow' type arms, fit in sections that will each pass through the outlet. With restricted central flow to encourage the preferential discharge of peripheral contents to wipe the walls in mass flow, this would clear the silo better. Of course 'brute force' maybe tried with vibrators or fitting a bin activator. I have even seen pneumatically operated sledgehammers fitted to recalcitrant hoppers by those who would not pay for exert advice.

Re: Ammonium Sulphate Silo - Flow Problems

Erstellt am 24. Jan. 2011 - 08:03

45 degrees to the horizontal, sounds like someone bought a grain bin!

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Air Cannons

Erstellt am 27. Mar. 2012 - 01:49

Good day,

45 degree angle is too low angle...60 - 65 cone angle would be mostly recommended.

Either you consider redesigning the silo extraction or may think of external flow discharge aid such as air cannons (pressure 5-6 bars).

Kind regards

thomas dionnet

www.staminair.com


Quote Originally Posted by sanjaycalvinView Post
Hello All,

We have a SS silo for storing ammonium sulphate salt, which is a byproduct of our steel facility. The silo is fed by a bucket elevator and the silo is emptied once a day by trucking the salt out of the facility. The silo is 11' dia cylindrical and has a cone on the top and bottom ends. Bottom discharge hole is 24".DOC001.PDF

See file attached for silo drawing.

We experience problems due to salt sticking on the inside and operators using sledge hammers on a regular basis. The angle of the bottom cone at present is 45 deg to horizontal. The angle of repose of the material varies from 29 - 38 deg. We are presently thinking of bin inserts with a steeper angle of flow for mass flow or replace with new.

Please provide your expert comments and suggestions.

Thanks.

Sanjay Calvin