Spreading the Load before Feeding

Posted in: , on 12. May. 2010 - 06:56

Learned Colleagues,

I am looking for a method of spreading material being discharged form a conveyor before the material feeds into a jigging machine (this could be considered as a screen, it needs the same uniform flow). The discharge conveyor has 1.2m/s 450 wide belt and the jigging machine is 2.3m wide. The material is iron ore with a density of 2.8t/m3.

I have two different conveyors and jig machines. First stream is 80t/hr with a top size of 8mm and smallest size of 1mm. 2nd stream is 130t/hr with a top size of 50 and smallest size of 8mm.

I have contacted WS Tyler and J&H for their advice as suggested in this topic https://forum.bulk-online.com/showthread.php?t=16708 however they have yet to get back to me.

I was initially thinking of a series of rock boxes and deflectors to spread the material out because i have almost 4 m head height. Is there a better soloution? The chutes are simple but are they as effective a specific machine for this purpose? Are there machines specificly designed for this purpose?

Is there a way i can choke the feed in a 2.3 m wide bin and discharge out? The problem with this is the arching (mechanical or cohesive) requires an opening of at least 4 x max paticle size = 200mm. Therefore 200mm * 2300mm = 0.46m2

With this openeing the speed has to be in the order of 0.03m/sec or 30mm/sec is this acheivable or will the material just flow out faster over a smaller profile?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Peter

Problems With Iron Ore

Erstellt am 12. May. 2010 - 04:00

A jigging machine is used on commercial fishing boats, whoopsy!

The problem you appear to have is from gravity and even the smallest apron feeder sized to the width of your conveyor will solve this issue as it moves all the material from the rear of a bin to the front and nothing is allowed to back up and arch from compaction.

a linear screener like those made by EZ-screen would eliminate a lot of problems following a very small apron feeder the width of the upper belt would resolve it as it will regulate the flow in a very slow and effective forward motion alllowing a tiny fraction to be delivered at any time.

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amking.com RCR apron feeders

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lzaharis

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 12. May. 2010 - 11:28

thanks for your response lzaharis,

Just so i understand are you suggesting I use a small hopper and feeder of 2.3m belt/apron width to spread the material out. Belt feeders normally require a gate opening of at least 6 x max particle size so thats 300mm on first stream and 50mm on the second stream

That calculates to a belt speed of 18mm/sec and 36mm/sec

Is there a problem with the belt feeder going so slow?

A problem I can think of is with that slow belt speed, the material will surge of the feeder heady pulley. Once the material falls off the head pully there is a rush a material, then the material stabilises and there is no flow for a few seconds. As there is no fines then maybe the risk of this surging is smaller.

Iron Ore

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 12:58

I am not referring to a short conveyor belt type of feeder system.

I am referring to a steel track "apron feeder" which uses a type of overlapping dozer track designed plate to

create the bed on which the material is carried from back to front which creates

mass flow, and is regulated by a stationary gate that can be raised or lowered to

regulate flow.

And as such the single pad has a limit to carrying the amount of material which

the gate allows to pass under it will carry a limited amount of iron ore and not

flood and blind it in the course of movement.

The steel track apron feeder has an electric motor drive which is used with a reduction gear box to

create a very low final drive bed speed to the final drive sprockets to carry the material. and you will be able to order what ever speed motor and gear box

with few if any issues.

lzaharis

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 01:18

I dont understand what the difference is using an apron as oppoesed to a belt. I prefer belt because it is cheaper and no (less) spillage. The belt and apron peform the same function so if i dont have large impact why would i use an apron.

Iron Ore

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 03:15

An apron feeder will be much less

troublesome versus a belt feeder.

The apron feeder is much more

compact with its installation

versus a conveyor belt feeder.

with no issues of belt wandering

and stretching, drive pulleys, lagging

etc.

I can tell you from my experience

about a very small apron feeder we

used for 21 years in halite.

The apron feeder ran flawlessly

and in those years we replaced only one motor

and one of the pillow block bearings for the sprockets.

Its easy enough to find a used apron feeder for sale

and you dont have to deal with belt splices and the

leakage of fines is minor versus a conveyor that

will have carry back due to the very high speeds that

conveyor belt feeders have typically. and the apron feeder will only

have a small amount of ore coming over the end of the

feeder with no flooding.

The skirting arrangement for an apron feeder is vertical

and it allows easy control of the material and keeps

it in place on the apron with no overflow.

The apron feeder has no impact idlers to change or grease( if used)instead of impact bars)

The apron feeder has a flat amperage draw versus a belt feeder as the work level is flat with no spikes due to the apron feeders reduction gearing and final drive.

the track of the apron feeder is held in tension by the drive sprockets and passive sprockets and the upper and lower rollers in the carriage with no loss of alignment due the apron chain which is part of the aprons inidvidual plate.

The apron feeder can be geared to a crawl if so desired with the the properly sized reduction unit

If the bins are close enough it may be worth your while to use one apron feeder for both bins and simply keep one bin empty while the other one is working.

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 04:53

Lzaharis,

I appreciate the effort you have gone to in your response. I will talk to some apron feeder suppliers.

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 01:44

If your conveyor is in line with the screen you may like to consider a 'spreader chute'. This is essentially a section of a cone over which the material flows and is spread from a narrow to a wide stream as it flows down the conical surface.

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 07:56

Dear Mr. Peter,

You can think of about following two methods which are often used to spread the feed while feeding into crusher or screen. This means conveyor material discharge width is say 1 m and crusher rotor width is 2 m, etc.

1) The material discharge from the conveyor is finally made to impact / land on bottom face of say 60 degree inclined chute. On this bottom face steel flats are welded in a flaring manner that is they flare out in direction of the forward motion. The flaring angle is limited to about 5 degree. This has been frequently used for feeding of coal into crushers, in many coal handling plants in India. The material expansion magnitude cannot be very huge like 1:3 or 1:4, etc. The expansion by 1:2 could be reliable / practical.

2) The other method is to use flat pan vibrating feeder which actually works as spreader and not feeder. The material discharge from the conveyor is finally made to impact / land on bottom face of say 60 degree inclined small / medium length chute. The vibrating feeder is installed at the bottom of the chute. The vibrating feeder inclination and size is such that its regular discharge rate at usual layer thickness is more than the inflow rate. Thus this vibrating feeder will never allow the material to accumulate in the chute and it will spread the material and continue discharge at partial layer height. In this case you can achieve spreading ratio as per your choice by using corresponding length of tray etc. Such method has been also used for feeding crushers, screens etc.

The aforesaid methods have been frequently used as a part of crusher house or screen house layout.

The other option is to create a hopper prior to vibrating feeder. But in this case the hopper has to be of comparatively more capacity, because it will be subjected to complication arising out of difference in feed rate and discharge rate and consequent frequent tripping of the entire incoming system, when suddenly hopper gets fully filled. In this case if feeder discharge rate is kept more, then it becomes arrangement as per sr. no. 2, functionally, and hopper will be only acting as a chute, without storage.

Regards,

Ishwar G Mulani.

Author of Book : Engineering Science and Application Design for Belt Conveyors.

Author of Book : Belt Feeder Design and Hopper Bin Silo

Advisor / Consultant for Bulk Material Handling System & Issues.

Pune, India.

Tel.: 0091 (0)20 25871916

Email: parimul@pn2.vsnl.net.in

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 13. May. 2010 - 11:35

Designer and Ishwar,

Yes the conveyor is inline with the jigging machine (it can be considered as a screen because it requires the same even flow) and yes i have been thinking about a spreader chute. I have a good photo (attached) of a spreader chute as you described that apears to be working well. However my concern with such a spreader chute is that if belt tracking or loading of the feeding conveyor belt is off center then the feed onto the spreader plate will be preferential to one side. Then the spreader plate will exagerate the problem and eventually load up one side of the Jigging machine preferentially. I see the same problem with splitter chutes.

However because i have a bit of head height I have been leaning towards just doing a series of of rock boxes. Which is not effected by the off center feeding.

I have attached a few sketchs that i did up yesterday. The sketch should give you an better understanding of the situation.

I can pull the head pulley back if i want to put a mechanical feeder in there as per Lzaharis suggestion.

I am unsure as what the best arrangement of rock boxes would be to spread the material out. What is the best arrangemnt to produce even flow over 2.3m width???

More rockboxes means less speed (and less spreading) when the material impacts the rock box.

My preference is for proposal 2 in the attached sketch as it requires less than 1:2 spreading ratio for each rock box and the fall height looks reasonable.

The sketch also shows the existing rockbox that the client has complained provided too much material to middle of the Jig.

If i go with rock boxes i need to be sure that the performace will be significantly better than the existing arangement.

Attachments

rockbox chute (PDF)

spreading impact plate (PDF)

Electromagnetic Feeder Can Be Used

Erstellt am 14. May. 2010 - 10:22

A JEFFREY EM PAN FEEDER would do the job nicely, easily, and fairly easy to fit in.

check out their website. I am not a sales agent for them but, they will do the job excellent.

FMC em feeder WILL also do this job and basically a Jeffries but a different colour.

Not overly large in size but, will nicely and uniformly feed your material to your machines and CONTROL the feed rate by volume and hopper design incorporated in the FEEDER design itself.

AN EXCELLENT knowledgeable company out of Woodruff SC i believe.

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Electromagnetic Feeder

Erstellt am 15. May. 2010 - 03:27

A simple JEFFREY EMF will do that job quite readily....or a FMC EMF...same thing different colour.

Cable susspended, easy to install, control FEED RATE by volumetric designed chutework which comes with feeder......comes in various widths....

check this LINK OUT: http://www.jeffreyrader.com/feeders/

GOOD LUCK

George Baker - MODERATOR.

Nice work Izaharis....

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Spreading The Load Evenly On Jig Inlet Box.

Erstellt am 15. May. 2010 - 03:30

" However my concern with such a spreader chute is that if belt tracking or loading of the feeding conveyor belt is off center then the feed onto the spreader plate will be preferential to one side. Then the spreader plate will exagerate the problem and eventually load up one side of the Jigging machine preferentially."

The only solution is good maintenance and operational practices to eliminate improper operation of belt conveyor feeding the jig.

Vinayak Sathe

vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

vinayak sathe 15, Rangavi Estate, Dabolim Airport 403801, Goa, India vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 20. May. 2010 - 11:00

When I was reading the first posting in this topic, my first thought was a vibrating feeder. Usually works fine to spread the load, relatively cheap and easy to install and operate.

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Feeding Chute Regulator -- Uniform Discharge Flow

Erstellt am 21. May. 2010 - 04:17

Conceptually, you are trying to build a flow stream regulator that treats the ore stream as a fluid to unify the hydraulic head.

The chute spreader can be regulated as proposed with rockbox and spreader chute. You can also fix the feeding conveyor loading chute to center the load prior to placing it on the feeding conveyor.

DEM can show this process and fine tune any "what if" questions regarding the feed irregularities and their consequences.

The spreader can be further enhanced at the entry to the vibrating screen.

Again, philosophically, you are trying to treat the ore stream like a water stream to unify the hydraulic head as the ore flows in any of the beds proposed.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

I Like The Spreading Chute Arrangement

Erstellt am 31. May. 2010 - 03:02

the rock box will slow the material drop height but, the spreading arrangement actually looks pretty good.

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Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 3. Jun. 2010 - 03:57

Rockbox Chute will not spread the material the way you want but will reduce the velocity and therefore impact to the jig.

Spreading impact plate could give the width but you still need to have a rockbox to slow the material down.

Another option is a hopper and diverging vibrating feeder - the advantage is uniform continous feed to the jig.

Regards

Ziggy Gregory

Ziggy Gregory www.vibfem.com.au

Re: Spreading The Load Before Feeding

Erstellt am 3. Jun. 2010 - 04:01

Spreading impact plate with a rockbox just above the jig surface could work pretty well. Honl about redesigning the spreading plate to also make it working as a rockbox to minimise wear. Current arrangement and iron ore will make your maintenance department busy.

Regards

Ziggy Gregory

Ziggy Gregory www.vibfem.com.au

Spreading A Feed Stream

Erstellt am 11. Jun. 2010 - 08:21

The sketches capture the basic principle of gravity spreading described earlier by designer and Mr. Mulani, but the most effective gravity flow method seems to be to combine two stage geometric rock boxes that exploits conical repose flow to distribute the feed sideways in a quadrant of a pile from the fill point, onto a plane flow repose pile to produces the requried linear discharge. The clever part is to extend the length of the sides for the bed of the initial repose cone to compensate for the sinusoidal gain of direct linear transfer and the transverse inertia of the material, so that the material is evenly distributed across the final emerging ‘waterfall’. Gravity is free, dependable and the flow of material on a dead bed of product, which can be a conical pile or a flat plane, eliminates a wear problem. The only requirement is headroom. whish is said to be available. Some of the saving on capital equiment and maintenance should be put into good design.

lyn