Recycling Tires

Posted in: , on 9. Jul. 2009 - 12:58

Does anyone can help me with information about wheel of used vehicles in pieces between 5 and 25mm? We have doubts about the Flow properties of the product. We are afraid that the product vill not go out throug a 500mm diameter spout of the silo.

Thank you.

Car Scrap

Erstellt am 12. Jul. 2009 - 01:12
Quote Originally Posted by mancisidorView Post
Does anyone can help me with information about wheel of used vehicles in pieces between 5 and 25mm? We have doubts about the Flow properties of the product. We are afraid that the product vill not go out throug a 500mm diameter spout of the silo.

Thank you.

We need more information from you Mancisidor,

with your stating the use of a spout it infers you

are blowing the scrap pieces into the silo.

Please clarify the storage and delvery ends of

the scrap processing system.

If any product is not uniform in size it most likely

will effect the outloading of scrap simply due to

gravity and weight of scrap pieces.

Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 12. Jul. 2009 - 05:58

Are you talking about a wheel as in something made of steel and attached to a vehicles axle, or the rubber tyre that is mounted on the wheel and in contact with the road surface ???

A Weally Rubbeley Topic !

Erstellt am 13. Jul. 2009 - 01:46

Shredded tyres might well expand when approaching the discharge, from the compressed state imposed by the weight of overhead rubber. Such expansion could indeed cause bridgeing across a smaller orifice. Half a metre sounds big enough..but. Fitting some sort of discharge promotion device will not overcome the situation if the orifice is too small. A vibrator would make things worse. What you might consider is fitting a cone baffle some distance above the outlet spout so that the weight is relieved. Just make sure that the subsequent compression, as the rubber flows through the new restriction, has time to relieve as it approaches the outlet.

Am I on the right track, Lyn?

Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 14. Jul. 2009 - 05:22

Dear Sirs,

Thank you very much at all for replying!

The product is rubber scrap form wheels of cars (Yes, the part that is in contact with the road, tires in english?). In some cases is possible that they contain ,metal or fabric wires. But the size of grain will be between 5 and 25mm.

We are going to strore this product in silos of 4.2m diameter. These silos are going to be chaged by a conveying belt installed at the top of them. From these silos we are goin to feed another belt by Electromechanical Vibrating feeders.

We have made a test to convey the product with this equipment, and the result is successful. But we have doubts about the diameter of the silo spout. We are afraid of bridgeing. As louispanjang said, a vibrator device in the cone of silos would make things worse. So we don´t think any kind of equipment for helping discharge such as vibration or fluidification will be "helpful". Do yuo thin a spout of 500mm diametre in a cone at 60º will be enough? have you any experience in processing this product?

Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 14. Jul. 2009 - 05:31

Dear M. louispanjang

What do you mean with fitting a cone baffle some distance above the outlet spout? What is a cone baffle?

Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 14. Jul. 2009 - 09:09

Can you put it into a 4.2m dia. silo, yes

Will it flow out by gravity alone through a 500mm dia outlet, problematic.

You've tested the electromechanical vibrating feeders for conveying, but thy need to be tested in conjunction with a bin of sufficient size to give a good indication of full scale results. Seek out feeder suppliers who have such a test plant and enquire from them for your equipment stipulating you want to witness trial running.

And remember to give them representative materials that come from your shredder.

Just A Cornetto

Erstellt am 15. Jul. 2009 - 05:55
Quote Originally Posted by mancisidorView Post
Dear M. louispanjang

What do you mean with fitting a cone baffle some distance above the outlet spout? What is a cone baffle?

If you fix a hollow cone, apex uppermost, in the centre of the bin then the cone will support some of the material weight. This leaves the rubber below in a less compressed condition which will reduce the particle growth behaviour which we suspect might otherwise contribute to bridgeing.

You must ensure that the cone is high enough over the start of the hopper so that it doesn't impede the descent of material through the bin. Bin capacity will be reduced ...but its better than a binful of gummed up rubber.

Flow Of Shredded Tyres

Erstellt am 20. Jul. 2009 - 10:16

You do not indicate the size of the pieces but, in any case, 500 mm is almost certainly inadequate for a 60 degree conical silo to relialy discharge. The wall friction will be high, so 60 degrees is little better than 45 degrees as the rubber will not slip on the walls. A plane flow transition of mass flow design may be suitable, but it would also be prudent to incorporate some overpressure relief.

You will also have to carefully design the belt extraction interface to secure progressive extraction. As this will have to accomodate the 500 mm width it would seem oppertune to look at a final outlet slot of extended length, even if the initial width is somewhat smaller than 500 mm. The task calls for some expertise on a 4.200 diameter silo. I would be expecting an expanded flow construction at 2,500 diameter to be needed, with minimum principle stress relaxation on the final slot.

Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 21. Jul. 2009 - 11:10

Why the used tire seems more useful than the news ? I have seen many company buying that.

Defector

Erstellt am 21. Jul. 2009 - 06:01

The size of scrap is between 5 and 25mm

I suppose you are talking about fixing an static deflector (like a chinese hat) above the spout of the silo, inside of it.

Used tires are recycled to get raw material like carbon black in other processes and get energy meanwhile.

Tyre Extraction From Silo

Erstellt am 27. Aug. 2009 - 09:28

We have manufactured screw conveyors for rubber crumb. We are sure that a square bottomed silo with multiple screw set up on the bottom would work. If you need more information please email thomson@wameng.com and I will send further information.

Best regards Mark Thomson Sales Director Tel. 01684 299100 Fax. 01684 299104 www.wamgroup.com www.olivibra.it

Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 8. Sep. 2009 - 09:40

I recall we had the same issue in the design of silos/ hoppers for the storage of grain. The key issue here is that there will be some form of bridging action accross the hopper, which can form up inside the silo as well, preventing discharge of the stored material. A vibrating poker solves this problem, by breaking up the bridge and allowing free-flow of the material out of the hopper.

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Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 8. Sep. 2009 - 11:45
Quote Originally Posted by Richard TJView Post
I recall we had the same issue in the design of silos/ hoppers for the storage of grain. The key issue here is that there will be some form of bridging action accross the hopper, which can form up inside the silo as well, preventing discharge of the stored material. A vibrating poker solves this problem, by breaking up the bridge and allowing free-flow of the material out of the hopper.

Since when does grain (wheat, barley etc) hang up in silos and require mechanical assistance to discharge it

All those I've ever seen have either a simple conical bottom, or a flat bottom and sweep auger to finally discharge the repose material after gravity discharge has been completed.

Tiime To Hang Up!

Erstellt am 5. Oct. 2009 - 03:54

Looks like you've plenty of buyers. All you have to do now is get it out of the bin.

The Chinese Hut ...

Erstellt am 6. Dec. 2009 - 01:45

The picture shows you the sharp chines hut to relieve pressure from the out flow

in many cases the sweeping auger is useful ... for lower density bulk

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Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 10. Dec. 2009 - 11:06
Quote Originally Posted by mancisidorView Post
Does anyone can help me with information about wheel of used vehicles in pieces between 5 and 25mm? We have doubts about the Flow properties of the product. We are afraid that the product vill not go out throug a 500mm diameter spout of the silo.

Thank you.

Dear Sir,

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Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 12. Dec. 2009 - 07:36

Almost no one changes their own tires anymore and the recycling of old tires is done by professionals who generally do so in an environmentally safe way. When you take your car in to have the tires changed at the local garage or tire shop there is almost always provision for taking your old tires for recycling. Approximately 1 in 4 of those old tires is retreaded and used again on another automobile somewhere. In many parts of the world old tires are ground up and used to make rubberized asphalt for highways or shredded and used as a base for gravel roads or as a sand or gravel substitute in some other road construction application. Some old tires are chopped up and used as part of the surface for indoor tennis courts or other indoor sports playing fields. For many applications, recycling old tire rubber is cheaper than collecting and processing new rubber.

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Re: Recycling Tires

Erstellt am 16. Dec. 2009 - 11:59

One method of turning scrap tires into recycled rubber for use in new products is ultrasound recycling. In this process, high-powered ultrasound is applied in combination with heat and high pressure. These forces break the bonds in the tires and form a rubber gum that can be cured and re-molded.