Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 18. Jun. 2009 - 01:01

Additionally suppliers may like to see :-

Particle size distribution of the clinker (cement clinker?)

Who you are, your name, your company name, full company details.

Many companies will not quote "blind" to an unknown company.

Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 18. Jun. 2009 - 05:05

B.I.D. Bulk Material Handling is a leading custom dry bulk material handling system supplier located in Canada. We have engineered and supplied conveyor systems (belt, tripper, shuttle, chain, screw, etc.) to cement, steel, mining, biomass and pulp & paper market segments. We would be interested in finding out more about your chain conveyor requirements for this project.

Please send more detailed information, including material information, your company details, and project location, to dlawrence@bidcanadaltd.com.

Thank you.

Reply

Erstellt am 18. Jun. 2009 - 05:57

Dear Sir,

Please send us detailed drawing and material specifications for the required Conveyor Chain. We will quote after receipt of the same and carrying out our regular costings. Kindly mention minimum quantity required.

Thanks & Best Regards

Shrikant Bhatt

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 05:07
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

Dear Mr/Ms

This is Cam from SANYYO, a large crushing and screening machine factory in Shanghai, China. Chain Converyor is one of our main products. Please let us know the quantity you need.

Please contact us by email & MSN: sales-export2@sanyyo.com. Skype: cam.zeng86

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 08:19
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

Dear Sir,

We can provide you the Chain but please be kind and send us your drawigns fro exact production.

Awaiting your reply and remain Dear Sir,

Sincerely and respectfully yours,

Uzair Khan

Director Sales

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 09:03

please send us details and contact us

Aykent K.delen

Mech. Engineer

BLM MAKNA NAAT SAN. TC. VE A.

Nilüfer Organize Sanayi Bölgesi113. Sok. No.13 Nilüfer / BURSA - TURKEY

Phone: +90 224 411 20 70

Fax : +90 224 411 20 90

Mobile: +90 535 9258582

Mail. aykentk@bilimmakina.com.tr

web: www.bilimmakina.com.tr

More Information

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 06:26

please consider below informations in your offers:

particle size: very fine, outlet product of baghouse

qty: 2 in two cases:

1- one under the hopper of baghouse and collect dust particles from baghouse and discharge to outlet flange

2- another one transfer material from one point to another point

thanks

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 07:38

So it's clinker dust, NOT clinker.

That's a whole different ball game as far as chain conveyors are concerned!

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 08:11
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post


1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker DUST

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

You don't need a 500 mm wide conveyor to handle 10 m3/hr of clinker dust , a 315 wide machine running at 0.05 m/s will be quite sufficient and will only need about 1.5 or 2.2 kW to drive it.

Use a case hardened drop forged chain for long life.

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 09:37

Is the application of a screw conveyor not more appropriate?

BR

Teus

Teus

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 10:09
Quote Originally Posted by Teus TuinenburgView Post
Is the application of a screw conveyor not more appropriate?

BR

Teus

Not when I'm giving the advice

Screw conveyors have their place, but not with clinker dust when the conveyor length requires hanger bearings.

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 20. Jun. 2009 - 12:16
Quote Originally Posted by louispanjangView Post
Any ideas about the temperatures involved?

.. and just for once it would be nice to have the temperature of the material at the baghouse outlet NOT the temperature of the gas in the baghouse

Nearing To A Perfect Specs

Erstellt am 20. Jun. 2009 - 03:21
Quote Originally Posted by designerView Post
You don't need a 500 mm wide conveyor to handle 10 m3/hr of clinker dust , a 315 wide machine running at 0.05 m/s will be quite sufficient and will only need about 1.5 or 2.2 kW to drive it.

Use a case hardened drop forged chain for long life.

Temperature also.

May I add inclination too.

We can give quotation if we can get full details.

Danny Reyes [email]memolub.ae@gmail.com[/email] [url]www.memolub.be[/url] +971556538918

Hi

Erstellt am 21. Jun. 2009 - 05:38

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Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

Material Temperature

Erstellt am 21. Jun. 2009 - 09:56

thanks everybody for your attention to this thread.

1-please consider clinker dust temperature: 150-180 deg. C

2- flange size: we have limitation for outlet flange of baghouse and the slope of hopper which I have asked for size 500mm

meanwhile I myself prefer mor screw conveyor to chain conveyor because clinker dust is very abrasive and maybe screw conveyor life will be more than chain conveyor, isn't it?

however if you would like to offer screw conveyor it should be without intermediate bearing. what was your experience for the longest screw conveyor without intermediate bearing?

thanks

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 21. Jun. 2009 - 12:12

1) are you having a rotary valve or double flap valve to give pressure isolation of the conveyor from the baghouse?

2) are you expecting the conveyor to act as a feeder and give a volumetrically controlled output, or have you sized the required capacity to a value that will never be exceeded?

3) how long is the inlet into the conveyor?


clinker dust is very abrasive

Yes, but so are many other dusts handled in chain conveyors, so use a very slow speed chain conveyor with case hardened components as I said previously.

More Information

Erstellt am 21. Jun. 2009 - 01:56

1- the sequence of equipments: baghouse-chain or screw conveyor-rotary valve-chain conveyor

2- flow rate of baghouse= 58,000 m3/h, dust load= 10 g/m3 so flow rate=58,000m3/hx10g/m3=5.8 t/h and density=0.8-1.2 t/m3 with a safety margine we ahve considered a capacity of 10m3/h fo the conveyor.

3- as you know flow 5.8 t/h(at the above) is the avarage value of outlet discharged dust because as soon as the gas enter the baghouse, all dust particles are not gathered in hopper outlet. Some settle in the hopper and some settle on bags surfaces and during jet pulses they fall in the hopper.

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 21. Jun. 2009 - 08:07

We progress little by little in finding out what is really required

The material density is 800 - 1200 m3/hr

The requirement is two conveyors not one.

The first conveyor is under the outlet of the baghouse and subject to the pressure condition inside the baghouse hopper. Currently it is not required to be a feeder conveyor limiting the extraction rate to 10 m3/hr. (This could cause problems )

Then there is a rotary valve, presumably to pressure isolate the second conveyor.

Finally there is the second conveyor.

It is assumed that by rating the system at 10 m3/hr it will be sufficient to always be in excess of the theoretical dust capacity of 7.25 m3/hr.

But is this assumption correct? Maybe not.

10 m3 will be the maximum volume extracted in 1 hr but on a short time span is 0.17 m3 extracted in 1 minute. When the bags are cleaned will the feed to the first conveyor be limited to 0.17 m3/min? If this cannot be guaranteed then the first conveyor needs to be designed as a feeder to limit the throughput to 0.17 m3/min. Chain conveyors, or screw conveyors, work on an instantaneous rate m3/sec or m3/min. It's no good asking for 10 m3/hr then expecting it to extract 10 m3 for 0.5 hr then nothing for 0.5 hr! 10 m3 in 0.5 hr is actually 20m3/hr throughput.

Food for thought, oh and we still don't know the length of the inlet into the first conveyor.

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 22. Jun. 2009 - 03:50

Dear Sir,

We are Zhejiang DEYING company which is a leading producer of construction machine in China.

In order to quote you the best price Please send more detailed information, including material information, your company details, and project location, to hydecxm@yahoo.com.cn or hydecxm@hotmail.com.

Regards,

Flora

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 23. Jun. 2009 - 06:05
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
thanks everybody for your attention to this thread.

1-please consider clinker dust temperature: 150-180 deg. C

2- flange size: we have limitation for outlet flange of baghouse and the slope of hopper which I have asked for size 500mm

meanwhile I myself prefer mor screw conveyor to chain conveyor because clinker dust is very abrasive and maybe screw conveyor life will be more than chain conveyor, isn't it?

however if you would like to offer screw conveyor it should be without intermediate bearing. what was your experience for the longest screw conveyor without intermediate bearing?

thanks

Dear Mohandes

please give a look to the web site www.magaldi.com.

I refer to the Magaldi Ecobelt conveyor It is suitable for this application and match with your request.

It is a conveyor, completely enclosed in an air-tight casing which guarantees a total environmental protection, avoiding dispersion of dust in the ambient.

The belt of the Magaldi Ecobelt, named Magaldi Superbelt, is made up by the assembly of a high tensile steel fabric belt onto which a series of steel pans, partially overlapped, is fixed.

For more details do not hesitate to contact me directly

Best regards

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 23. Jun. 2009 - 07:40
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertoHDView Post
Dear Mohandes

please give a look to the web site www.magaldi.com.

I refer to the Magaldi Ecobelt conveyor

Aren't they a bit expensive for just baghouse dust at 10 m3/hr?

Magaldi Ecobelt Conveyor

Erstellt am 25. Jun. 2009 - 08:44

I don't think Magaldi Ecobelt conveyor can be used under the hopper of baghouse to collect dust from inside of the baghouse and discharge it to outlet flange, isn't it?

meanwhile it seems it doesn't have any discharge flange.

for second conveyor maybe it can be used, but it seems too expensive. what is your estimation for its price? how many percent in relation to chain or screw conveyor?

Clinker Conveyor.

Erstellt am 29. Jun. 2009 - 05:29

with temperatures at 150 > 180 have you given thought to the internal wear on the base and side strips ?

If you are handling dust you will need to have wear protection which will not cause any additional friction and drag on your flights and chain.

You will also need to consider the surface flatness or what undulations you expect.

Not only do you need to consider the fabrication you also need to consider the structure and how you will make the expansion joints along its length.

Many times when we have lined such items repairs and maintanance have not been seriously considered.

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 3. Jul. 2009 - 04:22
Quote Originally Posted by TREVORHView Post
with temperatures at 150 > 180 have you given thought to the internal wear on the base and side strips ?

150-180 deg C is no more a big deal than 50-80 deg C.


If you are handling dust you will need to have wear protection which will not cause any additional friction and drag on your flights and chain.

The degree of wear protection in a chain conveyor largely depends on the speed of the chain.


You will also need to consider the surface flatness or what undulations you expect.

Not only do you need to consider the fabrication you also need to consider the structure and how you will make the expansion joints along its length.

At the temperatures quoted with single box conveyor construction, you don't need to worry about casing expansion joints along it's length. You may want to consider expansion supports if the conveyor is long.


Many times when we have lined such items repairs and maintanance have not been seriously considered.

Rohit Gupta Nuwave
(not verified)

Your Requirment Of Chain Conveyor

Erstellt am 8. Jul. 2009 - 01:12

Dear Sir,

We are one of the leading manufactyures of chain Conveyors, I shall be thankful if you may kindly give us your contact details to enable us to reach you. My e-mail is rohitg@nuwaveltd.org, Cell +919892508123.

Regards,

Rohit Gupta

Director - Market Development

Nuwave Technology Pvt Ltd


Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

Sainindone
(not verified)

Your Requirment Chain Conveyor

Erstellt am 11. Oct. 2009 - 05:57
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

Dear sir,

We are mfg. of material handling equipment from Pune, Maharashatara, India.

Please send use your inquiry on saininadone@indiatimes.com

regards

milind b kedare

Sainindone
(not verified)

Saininadone@Indiatimes.com Quote For Your Inquire

Erstellt am 27. Oct. 2009 - 07:19

Dear Sir,

Please send us detailed drawing and material specifications for the required Conveyor Chain. We will quote after receipt of the same and carrying out our regular costings. Kindly mention minimum quantity required.

Thanks & Best Regards

milind

for saininad associate engineers, pune, India

saininadone@indiatimes.com

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 27. Oct. 2009 - 07:42
Quote Originally Posted by SainindoneView Post
Please send us detailed drawing and material specifications for the required Conveyor Chain.

The enquiry was for a complete conveyor NOT just the chain

What Is Needed For Quotations (Short Version)

Erstellt am 10. Dec. 2009 - 05:26

hello all,

although this post seems no going further, my comments could help another one who looks for an conveyor or feeder

First of all describe all the process in the way you suppose it will work (what you imaging), all from the beginning to the end including the interface-equipment on both sides

What you expect from the system; what is the goal, what it has to do

Operation Conditions (h/d, d/week, ...)

Ambient temperature (min, max, average)

Place available, distances, relevant sizes of interface equipment (e.g. silo measures, chute)

Better you show us a drawing

bulk material characteristics: abrasive, sticky, hygroscopic, explosive/combustible (min. burn temp.), ..., flowing, bridging, tendency to cake, ...

Gas with bulk: is there a gas, besides air, feed with the bulk (explosive, ... steam, ...)?

Bulk temperatures (min, max, nominal)

Angle of Repose of bulk

Grain sizes (min, max, nominal)

Charge rate m3/h and t/h (min, max, nominal); continuos, dis-continuos (describe)

With that kind of data we can start

and send you, to your e-mail, a quotation

And, by the way, our chain conveyor can handle a bulk temperature of more than 700 oC

with ambient temperatures below -40 oC

regards

dk bulk-good-solutions.com.ar 5491145337982

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 11. Dec. 2009 - 02:46
Quote Originally Posted by bulk.good.solutionsView Post
And, by the way, our chain conveyor can handle a bulk temperature of more than 700 oC with ambient temperatures below -40 oC

700 deg C, thats knocking on towards red hot

So what are the chains made of?

700 Deg C Chains

Erstellt am 13. Dec. 2009 - 03:13
Quote Originally Posted by designerView Post
700 deg C, thats knocking on towards red hot

So what are the chains made of?

Hello

These are drop forged fork link chains, material specification will not be given over the internet, but if there is a real project we might share some information.

Troughs are made of boiler plate (Kesselblech)

Regards

dk bulk-good-solutions.com.ar 5491145337982

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 13. Dec. 2009 - 10:51
Quote Originally Posted by bulk.good.solutionsView Post
material specification will not be given over the internet

Ah, a challenge! I like a challenge, maybe a few steels it's not likely to be, but that are used for drop forged chains -

  • Plain carbon steels e.g. C40 or C45. No their strength come from heat treatment and at 700 deg C they will have annealed out.
  • Low carbon, low alloy steels e.g. 16MnCr5, 20MnCr5, SAE8620, 18MnCrB5. No, these are case hardened and the case will annealed out well before 700 deg C



Um, I'll have to return to this later following a bit more research

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 13. Dec. 2009 - 11:09
Quote Originally Posted by bulk.good.solutionsView Post
Troughs are made of boiler plate (Kesselblech)

According to my data Kesselblech boiler plate is

EN 10028-2, P265GH No1.0425

Max temperature according to specification, 400 deg C

Yield point at elevated temperature (400 deg C) is 150 MPa

So you say it's OK for use at 700 deg C ???

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 29. Dec. 2009 - 04:02
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

Dear Sir,

If the chain conveyor is similar to the existing please send us the technical data and drawings so that we can send our quotation

Regards

Natarajan

Pioneer Heavy Engineering Pvt. Ltd.,

Chennai - 23

E-mail: contact@pioneerproject.com

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 29. Dec. 2009 - 05:03
Quote Originally Posted by NATARAJANView Post
If the chain conveyor is similar to the existing please send us the technical data and drawings so that we can send our quotation

I think a competent supplier reading the entire thread will find sufficient information to offer a quotation.

Dust Scraping The Surface!

Erstellt am 30. Dec. 2009 - 06:07

According to specification figures the bed depth will be 5.5mm/m/s of chain speed. So you need a very low chain speed to provide a reasonable bed depth for even a very small chain.

I am also particularly amused by posts which claim to be from competent suppliers and then ask for detail drawings

beltconveyor
(not verified)

Quotation

Erstellt am 26. Jan. 2010 - 07:30
Quote Originally Posted by mohandesView Post
please send me your offer for chain conveyor with below specification:

1- capacity: 10 m3/h

2- length: 16m

3- width: 500mm

4- material: clinker

5- bulk density: 1.2 t/m3

thanks

please show me your email box,I will supply our proper price.

Yangang

Henan Pingyuan Mining Machinery Co.,Ltd

Tel:86-3735799198

Fax:86-3735071699

Email:hnpykj@yahoo.com yang@hnpykj.com

Re: Chain Conveyor Inquiry

Erstellt am 26. Jan. 2010 - 02:21
Quote Originally Posted by louispanjangView Post
I am also particularly amused by posts which claim to be from competent suppliers and then ask for detail drawings

Ah, but what what are they competent in, designing from scratch , or making to someone elses drawings .