Why not Standardise Steelcord Belts?

Posted in: , on 30. Jan. 2009 - 18:09

Dear Experts,

In industry we have many steel cord belts are available, say ST 1000 , ST 2500 etc.,

But that they are manufactured as per the manufacturer's own design.

i.e., the cord dia, pitch, top & bottom covers etc., are different among the different make of steel cord belts.

This makes extremely difficult for the maintenance people when splicing jobs need to be taken. Because the vulcanizing kits need to be arranged based on above details which can take quite few days. Many times these details are not known.

If we have the steelcord belts standardised according to their grade with fixed cord diameters, pitches, top & bottom covers etc., it will be a great help for the end users.

I request the opinion of the experts.

Thanks & Regards,

Re: Why Not Standardise Steelcord Belts?

Erstellt am 30. Jan. 2009 - 11:25

Standardisation can be a vexed question for manufacturers who, in most cases, would like to keep to themselves features of their products that may give them a commercial edge in a competitive market.

Douglas Ellis,
(not verified)

Standardising Belts

Erstellt am 31. Jan. 2009 - 02:19

The writer has a point - but I doubt that it will ever be solved. There are too many variables! and too many companies and countries of supply. It all goes back to corporate procedures. A site engineer must have on his records a "splice diagram" for every belt specification on his site cross referenced to the corporate part number and the conveyor on which it is installed, with belt maintenance departments and splice contractors to work to them.

Re: Why Not Standardise Steelcord Belts?

Erstellt am 31. Jan. 2009 - 09:10

Referring to a previous recent thread concerning "The boy stood on the burning deck." shouldn't you also be asking for all belts to be fire resistant, chemical resistant and frost resistant? What holds good for belts also holds good for e.g. pipes; Should all piping then be SuperDuplex?

If the belt construction details are not known by the Owner then it is the fault of the Owner.

Re: Why Not Standardise Steelcord Belts?

Erstellt am 1. Feb. 2009 - 06:26

[QUOTE=designer : Standardisation can be a vexed question for manufacturers who, in most cases, would like to keep to themselves features of their products that may give them a commercial edge in a competitive market. [/QUOTE]

So the present strategy literally push the buyers of the belt into "RECEIVING" end.

If we go in very detail, manufacturers need not to be vexed.

It depends how they look at the oppurtunities, if steel cord belts are manufactured as per laid standards. Any manufacturer can supply the vulcanizing kit or machines to any customer.

Their marketing will be widen if the construction are standardized.

If the manufacturer has quality in their materials and services, why should they be vexed?

THANKS A LOT TO Mr.Douglas Ellis for your support!. (The writer has a point ).

I posted this thread because I trust our bulk-online forum has a strong group of experts who can foresee and fulfill the future requirements at the international level.

Thanks & regards,

Douglas Ellis,
(not verified)

Re: Why Not Standardise Steelcord Belts?

Erstellt am 2. Feb. 2009 - 12:03

Sqanesh, You have raised an interesting subject, but I suggest that you do not link it to vulcanizers, vulcanizing and splicing.

rekhawar
(not verified)

Re: Why Not Standardise Steelcord Belts?

Erstellt am 2. Feb. 2009 - 04:25

Dear all,

I agree with Mr. Ganesh, other than ratings the composition of steel cords, spacing & thickness etc. should be standardised.

This also poses problem while purchasing new belts, as different manufacturers offer different configurations for the same rating. Cost of manufacturing must be varying for different combination of steel, rubber & compounds.

May be, for steel cord belts we are yet to reach a stage of standardisation?

Additionally, we don't have many manufacturer of Steel cord belts in India.

Regards

P. Rekhawar

Standardizing Steel Cord Belting?

Erstellt am 2. Feb. 2009 - 09:32

If you take the time to ask the manufacturers, you will find differences in how they select the cords, the splice design, the fatigue strength ratings, belt safety factors, et al.

Mfgrs. keep on hand, in the factory, a set of cord diameters. These vary between belt suppliers, between cord providers and even the strength rating of the cords.

You do not seem to understand there is a difference in supplier knowledge, amount of product they keep on hand, and how they meet the market.

Now if a client wishes to obtain the best price, how do they achieve all the wishes of the supplier, owner, common sense, and advance knowledge of mfgrs. product superiorities. It won't happen. There is too much money on the table.

This notion of standard sizes always begs the day when someone invents a better widget. Are you going to ignore it, or not purchase it? Most will bend to the better products.

DIN already tried such an approach with the 22129, 22131, and other design selection processes. Now DIN is obsolete, although some still practice it without knowing there are better ways. Is this the practice you advocate?

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