N/N belt vs. Steel cord belt

Posted in: , on 18. Sep. 2008 - 07:54

I have a problem.

There is conv whose design parameters are as follows.

Design capacity : 2000TPH

Belt Width : 1400MM

Troughing angle : 35deg.

Material handled : Coal

Bulk Density : 0.8T/Cu.M

Belt speed : To suit the above.

C/C distance : 800M

Lift : 60M

Maximum belt sag : 2%

Type of Take Up : VGTU

Idler spacing : Standard.

Skirt LEngth : 15M

Ambient temp. : 50deg. C

.........................

I have designed it for N/N belting with a belt rating 2000/5.

One person is telling that it should be steel cord since this conveyor is crossing rail yard having 10 tracks with yard length of 175M and steel cord would provide better reliablity for this conveyor.

Now my questions are as follows.

1. Use of N/N belt in any way sacrifies the maintenance issues!!!

2. Does it mean steel cord belting does not have any disadvantage (Cost part excluded)???

Samiran Singha

Re: N/N Belt Vs. Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 29. Sep. 2008 - 05:06

You would certainly have a much stronger belt with steel cord with less permanent stretch. N/N is all nylon construction and will stretch much more than steel cord. I hop you have allowed for that in your calculation. You may want to take a look at P/N with polyester running lengthways and nylon running crossways which doesn't stretch as much as nylon/nylon .

But any belt is only as good as the splice used - therefore I would be more concerned with who is going to do the splice.

Gary Blenkhorn
President - Bulk Handlng Technology Inc.
Email: garyblenkhorn@gmail.com
Linkedin Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-blenkhorn-6286954b

Offering Conveyor Design Services, Conveyor Transfer Design Services and SolidWorks Design Services for equipment layouts.

Re: N/N Belt Vs. Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 29. Sep. 2008 - 05:34

The nylon belt will cost more that the steel cord. Your design of the conveyor via your given specifications, also beg for larger costs.

We today design 1200 mm wide overland conveyors to transport over 4500 t/h.

It seems your belt width, and therefore also strength, and also power will penalize your client/project capital and operating costs in substantial ways. As noted the steel cord belt is normally designed with about half the necessary safety factor, will consume about half the power, can take advantage of much wider idler spacing, etc.

The single potential disadvantage is the need for concave vertical curves. This will favor the fabric belt with lower elevated steel costs.

2% sag is not practiced today. Find a designer that can provide the best cost / performance.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Nn Belt Vs Steel Cord

Erstellt am 1. Oct. 2008 - 09:35

Dear Sir,

For particular application NN belt will be costlier. Steel cord belt would be more appropriate.

Regards.

A.Banerjee

Re: N/N Belt Vs. Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 13. Oct. 2008 - 04:13

I would use EP synthetic carcasse belting, but I am surprised everyone is saying that steelcord would be cheeper. Steel costs a fortune now, and the minimum covers are much thicker for steelcord.

Regards

LSL Tekpro

Graham Spriggs

Re: N/N Belt Vs. Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 20. Oct. 2008 - 11:19

hello samiran

I think belt selection is made on the type of material handled and i donot think steel cord is advisiable for thisapplication.

Secondly steel cord is costlier and not maintenance friendly in production units.

Re: N/N Belt Vs. Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 23. Oct. 2008 - 10:47

hi,

I don't mean that steel cord belt is not suitable for handling coal, these r generally selected for handling very large lumps.

Otherwise can be used for any material.

regards

RK

Re: N/N Belt Vs. Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 23. Oct. 2008 - 11:06

Hi RK

Fabric good for large lumps. (Use many plies)

We sometimes put fabric into steelcord belts to protect the cords from lumps.

I don't use anthing less than St1250 if there are lumps about as the cords are too small and get damaged.

For coal you can normally use either.. no problem.

Cheers

LSL Tekpro

Graham Spriggs