Temperature loss due to pressure loss

usama
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Posted in: , on 18. Jul. 2007 - 12:09

dear all,

this is the firist participate for me in this forums , i am haveing a problem in calculating tempreature loss due to friction in gas pipeline as i calculated the pressure drop and got the outlet pressure but can find the exit temprature for this pressure drop so i wonder how to calculate it.

thank you

Re: Temperature Loss Due To Pressure Loss

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2007 - 10:41

Change in temperature of air by friction is negligible as compared to heat transfer from pipe walls. Do a simple heat balance with initial air conditions and then heat exchanged in the pipes at your required conditions. If it is a pneumatic conveying system don’t forget the addition heat transferred due to the product addition in the system.

Mantoo
usama
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Re: Temperature Loss Due To Pressure Loss

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2007 - 11:29

the proplem is when the pressure drop from 25bar to 8 bar thats mean the temperature will decrease about 6 degree how can i calculate it ,

as every 3 bar degree give me a tempreature loss 1 degree where it came from

usama
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Temperature Loss Due To Pressure Loss

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2007 - 12:58

how much temperature drop for a pressure drop for natural gas

i have to answers

1- 12 celisus for 6.78 bar

2- 1 celisus for 3 bar

which one it the true

Re: Temperature Loss Due To Pressure Loss

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2007 - 01:16

If you are looking at the problem from thermodynamics side then it will depend on what kind of expansion it is Isothermal / adiabatic expansion????

Mantoo

Re: Temperature Loss Due To Pressure Loss

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2007 - 06:46

dear usama,

As already explained by mr Mantoo and designer, you have to calculate the heat balance using the gas laws together with energy transfer with the environment,

First of all, gas cools down when expanding (external energy is delivered at cost of internal energy)

Due to friction losses at a certain speed, external energy is transferred into heat, which is flowing back into the gas, causing a temperature increase.

Which effect is the greatest determines whether the gas cools down or heats up.

Then there is heat exchange through the pipewall and between the gas and the eventual product that is carried.

This calculation needs to be executed for a pipe length dL and then integrated over the complete length.

A book, describing thermo dynamics of gases must supply the necessary theory.

success

Teus

Re: Temperature Loss Due To Pressure Loss

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 10:25

I use a method for calculating the heat loss based on the attached document

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Waxing Lyrical

Erstellt am 19. Jun. 2009 - 11:24
Quote Originally Posted by tathadreamView Post
I use a method for calculating the heat loss based on the attached document

Interesting paper; but rather elaborate for the topic.