Steel cord belt for coal conveying

Nishant
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Posted in: , on 3. May. 2007 - 05:49

Dear All,

Is steel cord belting suitable for coal conveying? Is there a possible risk of explosion/fire due to static electricity generated from the steel cords?

We have a conveyor (with steel cord belt) that is around 30 years old, and has previously been used for conveying iron ore & mineral sands. We are looking to determine whether it would be suitable for loading coal onto it.

I would be interested to know whether steel cord is recommended for coal conveying, and if anyone has had any experience with such a matter?

Thanks in advance

Nishant

Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 3. May. 2007 - 07:37

The main drift belt at Selby carried 8,000 tpa at up to 9m/s, or thereabouts. It was steel chord & the mine never blew up, just shut down through lack of interest.

Steel chord is quite OK for coal.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Lyle Brown
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 4. May. 2007 - 01:24

There are examples of UG coal mines in Australia with appropriately rated ST conveyor belt. There are also examples of facilities which have ST belting in (or maybe some would consider, potentially) "hazardous" areas (such as reclaim tunnels et al).

The steel cords should be nice and buried in FRAS cover rubber.

I think the concern is generally related with ignition / burning of the rubber rather than the steel cords (potentially contacting something and generating a source of ignition).

Condition monitoring could be implemented to ensure this is maintained, however considering the cost of outages and or capital value of the installation, this would seem prudent regardless.

Regards,

Lyle

Nishant
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 4. May. 2007 - 08:30

Thank you for the feedback.

I've contact several belt suppliers and have been told that steel cord is 'very common' in the underground coal mining industry, so long as anti-static & fire-resistant covers are used. There were even suggestions that steel cord belt without the above ratings can be used for surface coal mining.

As Lyle pointed out the concern may be for the rubber cover igniting before the steel cording is even able to cause any damage, which can be minimised with regular monitoring of the coal (dust, temperature etc).

So I think this solves the query

Thank you

Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 4. May. 2007 - 11:50

The use of steel cord belts is very common in SURFACE conveying.

Most overland belts exceeding 1000m in length, and there are many in the surface coal mining environment are equipped with steel cord belts.

Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 4. May. 2007 - 08:08

Dear Shri Nishant,

The use of steel cord belt for coal conveying is quite common. Following features are generally referred for using the belt depending upon the customer’s perception :

1) The belt could be flame resistant or could be usual grade N17 or M24. Previously most of the power stations and coal conveyors for surface mines in India were using belt cover N17 or M24. Since last about two decades, the users are often using flame resistant belts. I am referring to the surface installation system. The use of general grade or flame resistant grade is subjective to user’s perception about the fire hazard. In other words, degree of care / negligence in his plant in up-keeping of the coal handling system. The flame resistant belt is resistant to fire but it is inferior in abrasion resistance etc. and it is also expensive.

2) The anti static characteristic primarily refers to the zones which have explosive gases. The anti static implies the belt has higher conductivity and thereby it avoids the build -up of static charge and its sudden discharge which create sparks. Such spark, particularly for underground mine where combustible gas could be present, could result in to explosion. However, for surface installation it may not be so critical. However, anti static characteristic of the belt looks to be the general norm for coal conveyors. The anti static characteristic are measures in terms of Ohm resistance wherein the resistance shall not exceed a particular value.

3) The belt for underground coal mines should have flame resistant grade and also anti static characteristics. These are statutory requirements for such installations.

Regards,

Ishwar G Mulani.

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Lyle Brown
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 5. May. 2007 - 06:44

I know of installations without FRAS covers on "surface" coal conveying. However some of these installations include “potentially hazardous areas”, such as reclaim tunnels (or maybe even enclosed transfer towers)...

Static discharge is a real event and the consequences can be unacceptable.

I guess it depends.

I didn’t notice you are based in Australia.

If you gave a look at Australian Standards on line (assuming you have access) there are standards on FRAS belting (Fire Resistant Anti Static). Unfortunately I don’t have access at this moment, and cant recall the number.

Additionally there are standards on the classification of hazardous areas (i.e. underground coal mines or other areas where hazardous accumulations can occur such as breweries, refineries etc).

It is a bit of a read, and from memory, I think you would need to have significant experience in the field to accurately adopt the hazard ratings in accordance with the, standards, expectations.

If you are interested, have a look on google for coal mining health and safety act, Queensland. I think it specifies that all UG coal belts require FRAS covers. Additionally I *think* (stretching the memory friendship at the moment) is specifies the classifications of Explosion Risk Zones (which is referred to in the hazardous area classification standard).

Regards,

Lyle

Ray Latchford
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Steel Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 7. May. 2007 - 04:00

Nishant - whether the belt is fabric or steel cord is immaterial with the issues that you are considering.

I would expect that the belt that you have is anti-static by default, because of the carbon black loading in the compounding, and that it would meet the requirement that the electrical resistance of the covers does not exceed 300M-Ohm (AS1333.6.7).

I am sure that this could be checked in situ if required (test method AS1334.9).

The same would apply for a fabric belt, but the belt will be the least of your concerns I would expect.

At major coal handling terminals grade M steel cord and fabric belts are used very commonly but it is the situation of the belt conveyor that determines the belts suitability.

You will need to carry out a Risk Assessment. There will be other applicable standards but you would certainly need to review your application to consider the requirements of AS1755 - Conveyors - Safety Requirements. I expect there would also be insurance implications.

You need to consider such factors as the "accummulation of combustible materials". Potential for coal dust etc I expect will be factors. The same would apply for handling grain.

The results of your assessment will confirm whether a standard Grade M belt is acceptable, or whether a fire resistant belt is needed and that could be one from a number of fire resistant belt classifications.

Cheers,

Ray

Nishant
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 8. May. 2007 - 05:54

Thank you for the feedback.

Our initial concern was that steel cord belting would be unsuitable for coal conveying, but I am convinced now that provided the correct steps are taken, it is a suitable option.

Another concern was for a steel cord belt, which has been in service for around 40 years conveying various materials in underground tunnels. The question was whether belt degradation and wear could adversely affect its operation once it was switched for coal use. I assume this would be determined during the risk assessment process, combined with the relevant standards relating to combustible dusts.

I appreciate the comments.

Cheers

Lyle Brown
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 8. May. 2007 - 07:15

I was assuming that if the belt was suitable for use with the other materials (in terms of its current state of degradation and wear), coal would be no different. Assuming similar troughing profile etc.

There are plenty of people (re companies) who can do scans of the cords (they usually do them whilst they are on a conveyor, I suspect they could be done in a work shop, with the right facilities), which could be an option.

There are repair options for the covers also.

A documented 40 years, sounds like a pretty impressive service.

I guess there are concerns, such as: if it breaks what will happen (especially if there are people around or it is on an incline..). These concerns exist with a new belt, however you have recent manufactures certificates to provide some reassurance.

I guess it comes down to comparing the cost to make yourself happy it is suitable to use (scanning, repair) versus savings over buying a new belt.

You would have to factor in recovery (of the old belt) to the new location also.

The hazardous area classification standard series I referred to previously was AS2430.XX.

Regards,

Lyle

Edit to correct typo / spelling mistakes.

Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 8. May. 2007 - 03:26

One problem with using a 40 year old belt will be the re-vulcanising of it. The adhsion between the cord and the rubber will probably have reduced considerably and the likelyhood is that the joints will not hold for very long. If you would like to get some idea on this, take a sample, cut the top cover off (or bottom and see if the cord will simply pull out of the rest of the belt with some pliers. If it does, then the cord probably will not hold well in a new joint. I think for a 40 year old belt, you will find that the rubber that is in contact with the cord will have hardened beyond it's usefullness. Came across this in Ghana just a few months ago when the belt looked fine but was found to be no good (the belt had snapped on a few occasions lately). Although the belt still looked good, they decided they had to change it for safetys' sake.

Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 9. May. 2007 - 03:02

Repair and splicing of aged belt must be undertaken in a different way than conventional new belt.

Old belt can be spliced to about 75% of its new splice fatigue rating with proper procedures.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 9. May. 2007 - 09:11

Nishant..

If you go East of Johannesburg, here in South Africa, and dig a hole in the ground, you will very likely hit coal.

Consequently there are hundreds of coal conveyors here.

Short ones with fabric belts and long ones with steelcord belts.

We have found that fires are mostly caused on coal conveyors because of the deck plates between the trough and return belts which are primarily there to stop the coal spilling onto the return belt. The coal packs up under the trough belt and rubs against it. Friction. Heat. Fire...

So Some of my clients have banned deck plates on coal conveyors because of this. (nothing to do with static)

One thing about the steelcord though.

Coal tends to be sulphurous and SO2+H2O gives H2SO3

which is sulphurous acid and can corrode the steel cords if there are rubber cracks.

Also 2H2SO3+O2 gives 2H2SO4 which is sulphuric acid and makes it worse still.

In its dilute state Sulphuric acid is more reactive than concentrated which makes it worse... (not to mention it having two hydrogen irons which makes it stings your skin too... but I digress..)

So... if it is a major installation, you must scan the belt at least once a year especially for a second hand belt

Anyway.. go for it

Regards

LSL Tekpro

Graham Spriggs
Stephen Riddell
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Old Steel Cord Belt

Erstellt am 14. May. 2007 - 07:43

Hi Nishant,

The simplest approach will be to simply monitor the internal condition of the steel cords, look for any changes in the splices and track the wear rate on the covers. CBM has been doing this for the last 25 years, so if you'd like some further information our website is www.cbmi.com.au.

Best regards

Stephen

Nishant
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 18. May. 2007 - 03:07

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the feedback.

I've been alerted to the issue regarding deck plates and the buildup of material under the idler, but have found it doesnt exist on these particular conveyors.

There was also the concern with sulfuric acid leaching out of the coal but could not find much information to confirm this effect, and whether it would eat away at the rubber covers at all.

I would imagine that if the conveyors will go ahead with coal use, they will be scanned and checked, although just a visual inspection suggested the belts were in good condition (ie. no visible belt problems). Thus it is likely the belts have been replaced one or more times during the last 40 years or so, but cannot confirm how often (or even if) if has occurred.

Thanks Again

Stephen Riddell
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Re: Steel Cord Belt For Coal Conveying

Erstellt am 18. May. 2007 - 07:18

Hi Nishant,

The issue is sulphuric acid getting through cracks in the rubber cover and attacking the steel cord. Also, visual inspection is ok, but it tells you nothing about the condition of the steel cord (breaks or corrosion) or the splices internally. I would strongly advise that the belt be scanned before use, as more than 10% cord breakage is a serious OH & S issue and will lead to catastrophic belt failure.

Best regards

Stephen

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Erstellt am 20. Aug. 2007 - 05:21

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