Cement Needed
We are a trade company in EU and our client need urgently cement with following details: we hope to hear from you if possible today as the client is waiting. if we agree we are ready to come to visit you along with the buyer s contract and we can sign as soon as possibile
DRAFT CORPORATE OFFER
1.PRODUCT NAME AND SPECIFICATION – ORDINARY GREY PORTLAND CEMENT FOR CONSTUCTION GRADE 42.5 N as per BSS 12/1996
CHEMICAL COMPOSITION
SILICON DIOXIDE (S102) 21.00
ALUMINIUM OXIDE (A1203) 5.30
FERRIC OXIDE (FE203) 3.30
CALCIUM OXIDE (CAO)65.60
MAGNESIUM OXIDE (MGO) 1.10
SULPHUR TRIOXIDE (SO3) 2.70
LOSS OF IGNITION (LOI) 0.90
TRICALCIUM SILICATE (C3S) 60.00
DICALCIUM SILICATE (C2S) 15.00
TRICALCIUM ALUMINATE (C3A) 8.05
TRICALCIUM ALUMINO FERRICE (C4AF) 9.76
PHYSICAL AND MECHANICAL PROPERTIES
BLAIN CM2/GR 3.250
AUTOCLAVE EXPANTION 0.02
INITIAL SETTING TIME (VICAT) 105 MINUTES
FINAL SETTING TIME (VICAT) 135 MINUTES
COMPRESSIVE STRENGTH @ 03 DAYS 230 KG/CM2
AND @ 07 DAYS 305KG/CM2
AND @ 28 DAYS 420KG/CM2
2.ORIGIN: Seller’s choice (different countries)
3.PACKING: 50 kg EXPORT WORTHY BAGS
4.PORT OF DESTINATION: Buyer’s option
5.TERMS OF DELIVERY:PRICE CIF ASWP (INCOTERMS’00)
6.TOTAL QUANTITY: 800.000 tons – 1 000 000 tons
7.SHIPMENTS: By vessel of 12 500-30 000 MT
8.INSPECTION: SGS or similar on the port of loading
9.PAYMENT: By DL/C 100% at sight, Irrevocable, Confirmed, Transferable, Revolving, issue by First Class World Bank, payable on shiping documents presentation
10.PERFOMANCE BOND: 2%
11.PROCEDURES
a.The Buyer issues a Letter of Intent with full banking co-ordinates and authorization to conduct Soft Probe
b.The Seller issues a Full Corporate Offer. The Buyer reviews the Full Corporate Offer and signs, stamps and returns the document indicating that they accept the offers and its terms and conditions.
c.The seller issues Draft Contract. The Buyer signs, stamps and returns the Contract within 5 business days, indicating that they accept the Contract and its and conditions. Any fascimile or electronic copies shall be considered as the original.
d.Within five (5) banking days of signed Contract, The Buyer opens a non-operative Financial Instrument on their own Bank and then provides to the seller for approval and then forwards it to the Seller’s Bank.
e.Within five (5) banking days after receipt og non-operative Financial Instrument the Seller issues a non-operative two (2%) percent Perfomance Bond. Seller provides Proof of Product to Buyer’s Bank via SWIFT messenger.
f.Non-operative Letter of Credit and Perfomance Bond come into operative Bank to Bank.
g.Delivery and shipment commence as per terms and conditions of the contract.
Procedure for this Transaction:
1.Buyer agent issues LOI with BCL or soft probe authorization.
2.Seller issues FCO
3.Buyer agent returns signed FCO
4.Seller issues Draft contract
5.Buyer seals signs and contract exchanged
6.Seller post Letter of Undertaking (LOU) to post 2% for duration of contract upon receipt of DCL by swift.
7.Buyer opens DCL in favour of Seller
8.Seller furnishes PB 2%
9.Shipment starts as per contract schedule
LOI VALIDITY: 7 days from the date of issuance
contact e mail; marketo@hi.t-com.hr or
marketo@index.hr ■
Cement Supplier
Dear Sir,
I can assist you with your Cement request. Please e-mail me at the following e-mail address.
Valteau@sbcglobal.net
Sincerely,
Richard ■
Cement
Please give me an opportunity to supply Certified Portland Cement.
Please e-mail me at:
Valteau@sbcglobal.net ■
Re Cement
Estimado Sr,
Estamos buscando productores del cemento para importarlo al Paises Europeos , antes todos los Paises del Este.
Ahora mismo estamos en punto de finalizar una transacion para 18 mln del cemento Portland 42.5 N/R con CIF-Baltic , Black Sea , Africa Norte, Dubai y otros Puertos del Mundo.
Por favor mandanos los precios approximados (con CIF-Baltic , Black Sea , Africa Norte, Dubai ) y si estan favorables - entonces podemos empezar nuestra colaboracion inmediatamente.
Nos interesan los precios net debajo de 60$ per tonelada del cemento Portland 42.5N/R
Esperamos a su rapida respuesta
Un Saludo Cordial
Directora Principal
Dear Sr,
We are currently seeking cement producers world wide to import cement to Europe , specially to the Eastern Countries of Europe.
Right now we are in the process of closing a big contract for about 18 mln tones of cement Portland 42.5 N/R with CIF to Baltic Sea, Black Sea , North Africa , Dubai and the other harbours of the world.
Please , send us the list of approximated price (with CIF to Baltic Sea, Black Sea , North Africa , Dubai) and when favourable we would like start the cooperation immediately.
The net price, which specially would interest us, is below 60$ per ton of the Portland Cement 42.5 N/R.
We are waiting for your quick reply
Your sincerely
The Managing Director
info@amatistaconsulting.net ■
Re: Re Cement
Originally posted by cementpoint
Estimado Sr,
Estamos buscando productores del cemento para importarlo al Paises Europeos , antes todos los Paises del Este.
Ahora mismo estamos en punto de finalizar una transacion para 18 mln del cemento Portland 42.5 N/R con CIF-Baltic , Black Sea , Africa Norte, Dubai y otros Puertos del Mundo.
Por favor mandanos los precios approximados (con CIF-Baltic , Black Sea , Africa Norte, Dubai ) y si estan favorables - entonces podemos empezar nuestra colaboracion inmediatamente.
Nos interesan los precios net debajo de 60$ per tonelada del cemento Portland 42.5N/R
Esperamos a su rapida respuesta
Un Saludo Cordial
Anna Sargeant – Directora Principal
Dear Sr,
We are currently seeking cement producers world wide to import cement to Europe , specially to the Eastern Countries of Europe.
Right now we are in the process of closing a big contract for about 18 mln tones of cement Portland 42.5 N/R with CIF to Baltic Sea, Black Sea , North Africa , Dubai and the other harbours of the world.
Please , send us the list of approximated price (with CIF to Baltic Sea, Black Sea , North Africa , Dubai) and when favourable we would like start the cooperation immediately.
The net price, which specially would interest us, is below 60$ per ton of the Portland Cement 42.5 N/R.
We are waiting for your quick reply
Your sincerely
Anna Sargeant – The Managing Director
eurydyka@yahoo.com
Price cement from Russia : 180 $ Fob - Ukraine 120$ Fob - China 60$ Fob - Europe ( Spain or Italia 90 Euros Fob )
Price shipping between 40/98$ per ton
18 Millions Tons !!! Do you want to build new China wall ?
Virtual inquiry !!! Not serious ...
Never Factories propose CIf but only Ex or Fob !!!
Funny inquiry !!!! ■
Re: Cement
this was a very serious post not a joke at all we are not looking for cement for one client that 18,000,000 tones of Portland cement is for in total 7 clients,
and cif is possible we have a lot of contacts in this field and are talking to many reputable people and business is going very well thank you.
we now have more clients worldwide and are still looking for cement ...
who are you to say we are a Funny inquiry , we are far from that , if you want to find cement for a lot of buyers you need to look for the sellers, and thanks to my posting here and other places we have found some great people to work with.
i have also built a forum to buy and sell cement its free for all to join and post your buying and selling needs. please go to www.cementpoint.com
The site is NEW and including me there are only four users at the moment , but that will change over time .
please fell free to use this new site , but please if you not selling or buying don't post things that just wind people up .
regards nick ■
Re: Re: Cement
Miss
Real Factory or real buyer don't need such site !!!!!
I'm afraid that you know nothing about cement and never you have closed any deal . You dream front of pc only ..
Factories don't need Brokers . All is already sold for next two years from 99% of Countries as Russia ... ONly from China , little quantity is free ( Lafarge Holcim Group ) . Price 60$ FoB per ton
Real buyers don't need Brokers too ....
Your site is not professional ... because you have not right informations from real factories and real buyers .
Yes , i think that your inquiry is one dream from your brain !!
Name of your company ?
Address ?
Dominique Hougardy
Russia – Asia Dept – Cement
+ 7 926 280 30 20
Mitnaya 40/60
185560 Moscow
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454126 å ü, .å , .
OOO URALSIBPROMKOM Cement
454126 CHelyabinskaya area, g.CHelyabinsk , str. Ternopoliskaya d.23 INN 7453157669 /
RIZHAO CITY GANUAN CEMENT
Yanzhuang Town, Ju Country, Shandong, China
Zip Code 276535 ■
Re Cement
we don't need to work with people like you who are very negative ,
all i see from your posts are comments telling people that they are not real .
you DONT have Cement or want to buy cement.
so why do you say to me I'm not real ,
we have so many buyers , and now a few sellers, but our demand for cement is getting vast we have clients from all over the world .
and orders are going through,
at the moment we have a need for another 6,000,000 tonnes of Portland cement .
but i also have a lot of replies from people offering us cement,
and we all ways check them out very thoroughly .
I don't need to be told about the cement shortage in the world . but you don't know every thing my friend .
regards cementpo
P's don't bother to reply to me as i am just going to delete your mail in the future , you are a big JOKE to every one here HE HE ■
Re: Re Cement
Originally posted by cementpoint
we don't need to work with people like you who are very negative ,
all i see from your posts are comments telling people that they are not real .
you DONT have Cement or want to buy cement.
so why do you say to me I'm not real ,
we have so many buyers , and now a few sellers, but our demand for cement is getting vast we have clients from all over the world .
and orders are going through,
at the moment we have a need for another 6,000,000 tonnes of Portland cement .
but i also have a lot of replies from people offering us cement,
and we all ways check them out very thoroughly .
I don't need to be told about the cement shortage in the world . but you don't know every thing my friend .
regards cementpo
P's don't bother to reply to me as i am just going to delete your mail in the future , you are a big JOKE to every one here HE HE
Name of your company
Name factories with who you work ?
Us " lafarge Groupe Cheliabinsk - Moscow region - Riszhao ( China ) , and you ??
I have seen your stupid site . Do you think that this site is from one real business man is the cement business ? Only you thinks this !!
learn this business and same time , learn how to create pro Site !! ■
Re Cement
grow up and when has Free forum been a pro site anyway.........
and yes you are correct i am not just one man in the cement business , there is a large team of us all over Europe , i.e. UK , Poland. and Russia .
so thank you for pointing that out
regards ■
Re: Re: Re: Cement
Rather a insulting comment if I may say so and it serves no purpose. Factories use agents and allocation holders, who in turn do part of their business via traders and with end-users.
Your comment would mean that only 24 Million MT would be done indirectly, a figure you can not support. Perhaps some information since you mention Holcim. Over 2006 the leading 6 producers had combined sales of 535 Million MT, being a 21 percent share of world wide sales.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Mitischi
Miss
Real Factory or real buyer don't need such site !!!!!
I'm afraid that you know nothing about cement and never you have closed any deal . You dream front of pc only ..
Factories don't need Brokers . All is already sold for next two years from 99% of Countries as Russia ... ONly from China , little quantity is free ( Lafarge Holcim Group ) . Price 60$ FoB per ton
Real buyers don't need Brokers too ....
Your site is not professional ... because you have not right informations from real factories and real buyers .
Yes , i think that your inquiry is one dream from your brain !!
Name of your company ?
Address ?
Dominique Hougardy
Russia – Asia Dept – Cement
+ 7 926 280 30 20
Mitnaya 40/60
185560 Moscow
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«ÓÏ»
454126 å ü, .å , .
OOO URALSIBPROMKOM Cement
454126 CHelyabinskaya area, g.CHelyabinsk , str. Ternopoliskaya d.23 INN 7453157669 /
RIZHAO CITY GANUAN CEMENT
Yanzhuang Town, Ju Country, Shandong, China
Zip Code 276535 [/QUOTE] ■
Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement
Mister
if your site support so many scammers around the business cement , it's your problem !
Congratulations !
Dominique Hougardy
Russia – Asia Dept – Cement
+ 7 926 280 30 20
+ 7 895 180 37 50
Mitnaya 40/60
185560 Moscow
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«ÓÏ»
454126 å ü, .å , .
OOO URALSIBPROMKOM Cement
454126 CHelyabinskaya area, g.CHelyabinsk , str. Ternopoliskaya d.23 INN 7453157669 /
RIZHAO CITY GANUAN CEMENT
Yanzhuang Town, Ju Country, Shandong, China
Zip Code 276535 ■
Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement
Fairfax he always slams all posts
I think he is upset as know one is wanting cement from china right now.
he even said my site is not professional yet his is for sure NOT....
He has nothing good to say in any posts and I am surprised he is a business man at all.
I however am looking for real sellers or mandate holders for Portland cement and have many clients in Poland and Russia.
regards cementpoint
Originally posted by Fairfax
Rather a insulting comment if I may say so and it serves no purpose. Factories use agents and allocation holders, who in turn do part of their business via traders and with end-users.
Your comment would mean that only 24 Million MT would be done indirectly, a figure you can not support. Perhaps some information since you mention Holcim. Over 2006 the leading 6 producers had combined sales of 535 Million MT, being a 21 percent share of world wide sales.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Mitischi
Miss
Real Factory or real buyer don't need such site !!!!!
I'm afraid that you know nothing about cement and never you have closed any deal . You dream front of pc only ..
Factories don't need Brokers . All is already sold for next two years from 99% of Countries as Russia ... ONly from China , little quantity is free ( Lafarge Holcim Group ) . Price 60$ FoB per ton
Real buyers don't need Brokers too ....
Your site is not professional ... because you have not right informations from real factories and real buyers .
Yes , i think that your inquiry is one dream from your brain !!
Name of your company ?
Address ?
Dominique Hougardy
Russia – Asia Dept – Cement
+ 7 926 280 30 20
Mitnaya 40/60
185560 Moscow
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«ÓÏ»
454126 å ü, .å , .
OOO URALSIBPROMKOM Cement
454126 CHelyabinskaya area, g.CHelyabinsk , str. Ternopoliskaya d.23 INN 7453157669 /
RIZHAO CITY GANUAN CEMENT
Yanzhuang Town, Ju Country, Shandong, China
Zip Code 276535
[/QUOTE] ■
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Clients in Russia !!!
Very funny site here !!!
Mister : which kind of Cement Russia country can sale or needs to buy today ? From which factories or Which important buyer for instant in Moscow , needs cement ?
If you reply well : i will agree that you are very profesionnal Business office !!!
I wait ! Thank you much ... ■
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement
Originally posted by Mitischi
Clients in Russia !!!
Very funny site here !!!
Mister : which kind of Cement Russia country can sale or needs to buy today ? From which factories or Which important buyer for instant in Moscow , needs cement ?
If you reply well : i will agree that you are very profesionnal Business office !!!
I wait ! Thank you much ...
sorry but your English is soo bad i don't know what your trying to say.
how do you get anything done you know loi,s bcl,s , ndnc, etc, when you cant put one word in english ....
cementpoint ■
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement
Originally posted by cementpoint
sorry but your English is soo bad i don't know what your trying to say.
how do you get anything done you know loi,s bcl,s , ndnc, etc, when you cant put one word in english ....
cementpoint
LOI or BCL ? But never factories ask these kinds of documents !!!
Why ? IF you want cement ,you need to pay per prepayment only !!
You sell english langage ? Me i sell , produce cement . Do you feel the difference ?
NCND ? If one factory sign this stupid document with you , i pay you Ticket plane for Moscow and to visit real factory !!!
You are very funny , really ■
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement
get a life man , you clearly dont know what your talking about , .
in fact i really don't know why im boterng to peply to such a horing crap, who clanly has no idea how rpent is sold on the internahional street market.
I must hay sou are really fetting yourself down i sean prohessionally ..
hhee do uoy undretransd ew own uoy illsy nam
tnemectniop ■
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RIZHAO CITY GANGYUAN CEMENT
Yanzhuang Town, Ju Country, Shandong, China
Zip Code 276535
Manager of RIZHAO CITY GANGYUAN CEMENT
Ms. Zhang Jie
Mandate Exclusive :
Ikhlef Bualem
+7 926 546 94 11
Moscow
ikhl61@mail.ru
Speaking Russian, French, Arabic, English.
Administration Export
Dominique Hougardy
+7 985 180 37 50
Moscow
chinarussiacement@gmail.com
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The Taishan Cement
is located at the south of Mountain Tai and the north of QuFu. whose native land of Confucius. It¡¯s plant covers an area of 290,000 square meters. There are two new¨Cdry method production lines of cement crusher and the two production lines are 2500t/d grade which is the first one in all China coal industy and 5000t/d grade separately. The corporation has the first cement remaining energy project (CDM) in China,which is registered by The United Nations. The corporation is composed by five cement company and one limestone mine company and the corporation¡¯s production capacity is 4.5million tons per year. The corporation is listed in the one hundrecl greatest building material company in China and the fifty greatest production company in China, it becomes one of the 60 supporting point of China,and it is ranked as the experimental company of the circling economic by Shandong Province.
The enterprise has already passed the ISO10012, ISO9001, ISO14001, OHSAS18001. The enterprise got the honor signs of ¡°the fifth (also the sixth) consumer satisfied company of Shandong province ¡±and ¡°the province grade enterprise of conforming contract and credit¡±, advanced company in quality benefit of ShanDong. The enterprise becomes the AAA ranks of quality and famous corporation of building material in China.
From today date 22/01/2008 the rest of quantity which we haveto offer from Taishan factory is only 30,000 MT of cement 42,5 R.
Our last deal : South Africa 35000 Tons month ( February 2008 ) Price : 57$ Ex Factory
Manager of The Taishan Cement
Ms. Zhang Jie
Mandate Exclusive :
Ikhlef Bualem
+7 926 546 94 11
Moscow
ikhl61@mail.ru
Speaking Russian, French, Arabic, English.
Administration Export
Dominique Hougardy
+7 985 180 37 50
Moscow
chinarussiacement@gmail.com
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ShanDong ShuangJi Group Company
By seizing the opportunity of reformation and taking a series of distinctive concepts,Shandong Shuangji Group Company has been an industry-across and area-across modern large enterprise,which includes seven underling companies as following:Zhaoyuan Cement Factory,Zhaoyuan Concrete Additive Factory,Zhaoyuan lntertexture Bag Factory ,Tengzhou Air Brick Factory ,Hainan Dongfang Shuangji Cement Factory,Haian Danzhou Shuangji Cement Factory,Hainan Supply and Marketing Company.Now,it holdscapital of RMB 45 billion,staff of more than 2000,it also is one of the largest 500 building materials enterprise in China.In the past years,it gained National Environmental Protection Advanced Enterprise,Quality Management Prize of National Building Materials Bureau etc honours.
For many years,general manager Song Wenji put forward his "famous brand strategy"and directed his employees onto a fast development path.Now,the company annually produces "shuangji"brand products as 1.5 million Portland cement,20 million pieces of intertecture bags,80 milliion air bricks and 5000 tons additives.With excellent quality,the products passed Quality Certificate System ISO9001.The company holds self-support imports amd exports rights.The products are sold for in 10 countries and areas of world and obtained wide international reputation.
In the future, the company will seize the good opportunity of joining the WTO,studying new experiences,adding new pquipments,and developing new products to gain more benefits and contrbute for building system.
ShanDong ShuangJi
Ms. Zhang Jie
Mandate Exclusive :
Ikhlef Bualem
+7 926 546 94 11
Moscow
ikhl61@mail.ru
Speaking Russian, French, Arabic, English.
Administration Export
Dominique Hougardy
+7 985 180 37 50
Moscow
chinarussiacement@gmail.com
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Taishan Cement Co., Ltd.
has constantly reinforced quality control, made all efforts to avoid disbenefitial affection caused by National macrocontrol policy and won favor of the clients with stable quality. The favorable situation of production and sale is realized.
While consolidating domestic cement sales market, Taishan Cement Co., Ltd. is actively exploring International market. The company has signed a 5-year 1-million-ton cement sales contract with UAE. On July 28, the first batch of Taishan cement was transshipped to UAE from Qingdao Port. It’s the first step of Taishan cement to International market, filling the export vacancy of Taishan cement
D Hougardy
+7 985 180 37 50
Moscow
chinarussiacement@gmail.com
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For your information :
CEMEX
E-mail: info@cemex.com
To look all subdivisions of the company:
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Contact:
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CRH
E-mail: mail@crh.com
Head office: CRH, Belgard Castle, Clondalkin, Dublin 22, Ireland
Tel.: +353 1 4041000. Fax: +353 1 4041007
http://www.crh.com/
Dyckerhoff Zement
E-mail: Info@dyckerhoff.com
Dyckerhoff AG, Biebricher Str. 69, D-65203 Wiesbaden P.O. Box 22 47, D-65012 Wiesbaden
Tel.: +49(0)611 - 676 10 40
http://www.dyckerhoff.com/
HeidelbergCement
HeidelbergCement, Berliner Strasse 6, DE-69120 Heidelberg
Germany, HeidelbergCement, Berliner Strasse 6, DE-69120 Heidelberg
Tel: +49-6221-481-544
Web site: http://www.heidelbergcement.com/
Holcim
E-mail: info@holcim.com
Holcim, Hagenholzstrasse 85, CH-8050 Zurich, Switzerland
Tel: +41 58 858 87 10
Fax: +41 58 858 87 19
http://www.holcim.com
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Italcementi
E-mail: sdreport@itcgr.net
Via Camozzi, 124 24121 Bergamo (Italy)
Tel.: +39 035 396 111
Fax:+39 035 244 905
http://www.italcementigroup.com/
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Lafarge
E-mail: info@lafarge.com
Lafarge SA, 61 rue des Belles Feuilles, BP 40 - 75782 Paris Cedex 16
Tel.: + 33 1 44 34 11 11
Fax: + 33 1 44 34 12 00
http://www.lafarge.com/
ORASCOM
E-mail: info@orascomci.com
OCI (UK) Limited, 4 Cork Street, London W1S 3LB
Tel.: +44 (0)20 7439 4801
http://www.orascomci.com/
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Nothing about this famous spanish guy !!!! No Address , No Phone , No Name !!!!
From Spain , if you need infos from Cemex company . welcome !
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Cemex Moscow : Our last deal : 5000 tons /month : Price 5700 Roubles per ton ! Buyer : Rouskov Company . ( Cement Format M500)
Holcim Moscow : 3000 Tons month - Ikhlef Bualem - ( Cement Format M400 ) price 5500 roubles per ton .
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Real seller can prove
Real buyer hide nothing
Forget others ways from virtual business people ! As cement point !!! Maybe Point of view !
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If you need real infos , call us ! We will tell you what is wrong or not from differents ' suppliers ' ...
Factories don't need LOI or BCL .
Real Seller will invite you to visit the Factories . If not , leave this way !
Don't forget than more 95% of suppliers in Internet are Scams !!!
Don't forget than more 80% of Buyers in Internet never have sold any gram of cement !
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Welcome ■
Some Truth In This
The information on those companies is not very interesting and does add substance to this brainless discussion, but our fiend from russia makes a valid point that most deals in the world wide web are not real, and not only on the web.
That is why we have a policy to meet the people / organisations we are dealing with personally and tructure the transaction.
We have received a number of "fake LOI's", "fake BCL's" issued by people who pose as potential buyers or by pretending they they are legitimate companies or their authorised agents.They are using the identities (letterheads, signatures, addresses, etc.) of real companies.
Our legal department always checks and identifies all companies and agents which send us an inquiry. If we receive a "fake LOI", our legal department will immediatly inform the authorities. ■
Re: Some Truth In This
Originally posted by Fairfax
The information on those companies is not very interesting and does add substance to this brainless discussion, but our fiend from russia makes a valid point that most deals in the world wide web are not real, and not only on the web.
That is why we have a policy to meet the people / organisations we are dealing with personally and tructure the transaction.
We have received a number of "fake LOI's", "fake BCL's" issued by people who pose as potential buyers or by pretending they they are legitimate companies or their authorised agents.They are using the identities (letterheads, signatures, addresses, etc.) of real companies.
Our legal department always checks and identifies all companies and agents which send us an inquiry. If we receive a "fake LOI", our legal department will immediatly inform the authorities.
but fairfax according to whats his name , he said not to use loi,s bcl.s ndnc,s etc , so where is the clarity in his posts we always adhere to international proceeder's and are using incoterms .
i think as he is clearly a big producer in mosscow he must realise that i would never give any customer name .......
regards cementpoint ■
Re: Some Truth In This
when one guy proposes cement at 54$ Cif for instant , i did not see you here
Welcome in Moscow Mister Fax , we don't propose copy of deal . ONly real from our China and Russia Factories .
More 95% of suppliers around cement are Scams , Mister . Here it's more 99% ... Thank to spy sometimes when you see wrong proposition ...from your site ...
Today Cement : from Russia 6215 Roubles per ton - Ukraine 127$ per ton - from Turkey 118$ - from China 60/65$ FOB only ...
Don't forget to visit Factory with your seller .
Russia - Ukraine , South Africa dont' propose Cement for this year ! National market takes all .
From Spain : Only Clinker ( Cemex )
From Egypt : 5000 tons month
From Turkey 9000 Tons month
From Algerie : 6000 Tons Month ( Lafarge )
From Greece : 5/8000 Tons month
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Factories will ask you as Terms Payment : Only PREPAYMENT . ■
Some Truth In This
I read your post with interest. Clearly in any transaction in the commodity of cement, ethanol, or oil these basic criteria are laid down in the LOI and supported in the BCL
However, I get the impression that the way our Russian friend likes to operate is based on a contact between the end-seller and the end-buyer. Which is totally acceptable, however in doing so he rejects to work with responsible third parties.
Its like a oil transaction, a tanker is sold many times before it reaches its destination and a cement contract can also be transferred. ■
Re: Re: Some Truth In This
Originally posted by cementpoint
but fairfax according to whats his name , he said not to use loi,s bcl.s ndnc,s etc , so where is the clarity in his posts we always adhere to international proceeder's and are using incoterms .
i think as he is clearly a big producer in mosscow he must realise that i would never give any customer name .......
regards cementpoint
But i don't need customer name !!! Only your , to verif something about your famous Business . Are you afraid to tell who are you ?
Impossible to get any gram of cement from Russia . What i will do with new customer ??
I said you only that you are not pro in this business that's all !
Try to call Cemex from Spain !!! If you cannot , i will show how !
When you wrote that you work with Russia , i replied you : It's not true !
What's M400 and M500 ?
Check correctly our business , companies and deals . I hope for you to get only 10% .....
I am not here to sell something !! I was only tired to see so many scams sellers in much ' Pro sites ' ...
Reals buyers must know that : it's impossible to get cement from this kind of way .... No cement if you don't know where to call , with who to speak .
Forget your ' international procedure ' , this is for virtual people ! ■
Re: Re: Re: Some Truth In This
Originally posted by Mitischi
But i don't need customer name !!! Only your , to verif something about your famous Business . Are you afraid to tell who are you ?
Impossible to get any gram of cement from Russia . What i will do with new customer ??
I said you only that you are not pro in this business that's all !
Try to call Cemex from Spain !!! If you cannot , i will show how !
When you wrote that you work with Russia , i replied you : It's not true !
What's M400 and M500 ?
Check correctly our business , companies and deals . I hope for you to get only 10% .....
I am not here to sell something !! I was only tired to see so many scams sellers in much ' Pro sites ' ...
Reals buyers must know that : it's impossible to get cement from this kind of way .... No cement if you don't know where to call , with who to speak .
Forget your ' international procedure ' , this is for virtual people !
Dear Mitischi,
I really have enough of this brainless discussion.
However I have a question to you deliver on CQD? ■
Re: Re: Some Truth In This
Originally posted by Mitischi
when one guy proposes cement at 54$ Cif for instant , i did not see you here
Welcome in Moscow Mister Fax , we don't propose copy of deal . ONly real from our China and Russia Factories .
More 95% of suppliers around cement are Scams , Mister . Here it's more 99% ... Thank to spy sometimes when you see wrong proposition ...from your site ...
Today Cement : from Russia 6215 Roubles per ton - Ukraine 127$ per ton - from Turkey 118$ - from China 60/65$ FOB only ...
Don't forget to visit Factory with your seller .
Russia - Ukraine , South Africa dont' propose Cement for this year ! National market takes all .
From Spain : Only Clinker ( Cemex )
From Egypt : 5000 tons month
From Turkey 9000 Tons month
From Algerie : 6000 Tons Month ( Lafarge )
From Greece : 5/8000 Tons month
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Factories will ask you as Terms Payment : Only PREPAYMENT .
so do you have cement in russia for sale and if you do how much per tonne in usd if we ordered 16 mln tonnes
Sorry now i see it in your post no cement for sale in russia this year....
regards cementpoint
OH and my name by the way is ian steel ■
Re: Re: Re: Some Truth In This
Originally posted by cementpoint
so do you have cement in russia for sale and if you do how much per tonne in usd if we ordered 16 mln tonnes
Sorry now i see it in your post no cement for sale in russia this year....
regards cementpoint
OH and my name by the way is ian steel
AWSP CIF USD 54 - 55 depending on your financial instrument and origin ■
Cqd
I was surprissed that to my former question regarding delivery on CQD basis, I did not receive a reply from all these knowledgeble participants, therefore a definition of CQD
CQD - Customary Quick Dispatch Explanation:
For any COA or say voyage business, the owner must know how much time the vessel will take for loading and discharging. It is the responsibility of the charterers to commit the daily loading and unloading rates. This is required so that the owners can calculate the port stays and thus after taking into account the sea time and contingencies for weather, turn time, they can calculate the total voyage period.
This forms the backbone of the voyage estimation and arriving at the $/ton figure and time charter yield. However, for some ports, the charterers provide the term “CQD” for the disport. Here the owners must satisfy themselves through their port captains and/or the port agents with regards to the number of days it normally takes for similar vessels in similar conditions to discharge the cargo. Here the charterers are then not responsible for the delays beyond owners’ estimation. This then translates into no liability towards demurrage in the disports). ■
Cement
I'm interested in importing 12500 mton portland cement 52.5 spot offer or 1250 mton monthly. will submit a LOI/BCL once i get a reasonable price quotation via email. My first choice is Russia, China or ukraine but will consider any reasonable offers from around the globe. Any help??
ALVIN Mchaga (director of purchasing)
Akili Traders
akilitraders@gmail.com ■
Re: Cement
Originally posted by mchaga
I'm interested in importing 12500 mton portland cement 52.5 spot offer or 1250 mton monthly. will submit a LOI/BCL once i get a reasonable price quotation via email. My first choice is Russia, China or ukraine but will consider any reasonable offers from around the globe. Any help??
ALVIN Mchaga (director of purchasing)
Akili Traders
akilitraders@gmail.com
Not Choice Mister
From Russia : Forget
From Ukraine : Forget
From China : some quantities
reasonable price : forget
For which reason Factory wii give you reasonable price ?
1 real seller for 100 Buyers ...
If you don't know this business , forget ! or welcome for 99% in Scam way !!! ■
Re: Cqd
Originally posted by Fairfax
I was surprissed that to my former question regarding delivery on CQD basis, I did not receive a reply from all these knowledgeble participants, therefore a definition of CQD
CQD - Customary Quick Dispatch Explanation:
For any COA or say voyage business, the owner must know how much time the vessel will take for loading and discharging. It is the responsibility of the charterers to commit the daily loading and unloading rates. This is required so that the owners can calculate the port stays and thus after taking into account the sea time and contingencies for weather, turn time, they can calculate the total voyage period.
This forms the backbone of the voyage estimation and arriving at the $/ton figure and time charter yield. However, for some ports, the charterers provide the term “CQD” for the disport. Here the owners must satisfy themselves through their port captains and/or the port agents with regards to the number of days it normally takes for similar vessels in similar conditions to discharge the cargo. Here the charterers are then not responsible for the delays beyond owners’ estimation. This then translates into no liability towards demurrage in the disports).
Sorry not to reply! About me : i am in Cement way only ! Real cement way !
News from Mister ' cementpoint ' ??? The fabulous Pro !!! :-) ■
Re: Re: Cement
You don't have to say how so called "serious" you are, since you do not acknowledge the receipt of a e-mail, which is normal behavious for most people, as a result I have black-listed you.
You can't ask for the Moon on an empty stomach, like the man said, show me the money and I show you the cement..
W
Originally posted by cementpoint
this was a very serious post not a joke at all we are not looking for cement for one client that 18,000,000 tones of Portland cement is for in total 7 clients,
and cif is possible we have a lot of contacts in this field and are talking to many reputable people and business is going very well thank you.
we now have more clients worldwide and are still looking for cement ...
who are you to say we are a Funny inquiry , we are far from that , if you want to find cement for a lot of buyers you need to look for the sellers, and thanks to my posting here and other places we have found some great people to work with.
i have also built a forum to buy and sell cement its free for all to join and post your buying and selling needs. please go to www.cementpoint.com
The site is NEW and including me there are only four users at the moment , but that will change over time .
please fell free to use this new site , but please if you not selling or buying don't post things that just wind people up .
regards nick
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Re Cement
sorry again i was away from my computer for a while
i have replied and my partner is now corresponding with you
regards cementpoint ■
Re: Cement Needed
Poor cement point ,you don't feel that nobody beleive you and here you are as one clown !!!!
Please show us yours last famous cement deals !!!! ■
For All On This Forum!
It seems that in this forum only poured mud each other and nobody is going to sell or buy cement! ■
Cement needed
our company--ourblue in croatia want to buy 30,000MT x 5 ships of the portland cement for construction grade in port spalato
contact: marketo@index.hr ■