Picking A Vibrating Screen
Here is a bit more of the iceberg: :>))
1. Two deck VS is always better, gives much more flexibility now and in the future. Can be used as a load reliever deck also, to take the BED DEPTH or thickness of the mat of material down to acceptable depths.
2. Making the deck a large one surface unit would NOT be practical. Can not spread to wide widths, can not put a shaft in a very wide unit easily, not practical and the rule of thumb for V.S. is plus/minus relationship of 1 to 3 dimension for WIDTH vs LENGTH.
3. You can change the aperture later no problem, you will handle the TONNAGE assuming the SIEVE analysis of the particle gradations in the FEED MATERIAL are basically the same as the original job.
4. Proper SETUP means the following: that the speed of the V.S. box is proper and the STROKE of the V.S. is proper and the SLOPE of the V.S. is proper for the job that one is trying to do.
short example: coarse screening (BIG material) would typically be a lower SPEED of say 800 RPM range, larger STROKE of say 1/2" circle and lower SLOPE or angle of say 15 degree .
CONVERSELY, fine screening would be setup with faster RPM say 1400, smaller stroke say 3/16" circle or smaller, and steeper SLOPE of say 22 to 25 degrees.
CAPACITY: is expressed usually by a customer asking for 500TPH OF -25mm product. Feed is expressed as say.....100% of feed material passing say 50mm down to dust going to the V.S.
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Re: Vs Assessment For -25mm Limestone
Dear George
I am referring to your 1st post, #1. Assuming the 3.35STPH passing per sq foot, we need 23.6 m2 for 850tph job.
Q; Does this apply to both type of screen?
E10242 has 2 decks; the 1st deck aperture is 25mm and 2nd deck aperture is 20mm with the screening area of 21.6 m2 x 2
OmniS 2x8’x10’ with 28mm aperture has about 14.8 m2 (they have another similar model with 17.8 m2)
Q: Considering top deck screening area only, both screens are not capable of doing the job.
The purpose of new VS is to screen out +25mm (+25mm in the feed varies from 2% to 7%) and I don’t understand why we need double deck screen with 25mm/20mm aperture. Can you comment on this?
I want to spread the material evenly right from the feed chute by means of a diverter plate – will this help reducing the material bed?
How do we size the motor? I have 37kW x 2 units for V-Belt motor (I don’t know what do you call this system) and 11kW x 4 units for direct force vibrator. For operational wise, surely 44kW is preferred but why this system needs only half of the other system?
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Differences In Motor Sizes
1. Yes, applies to both screens.
2. Spreading sideplate to sideplate immediately at top of screen WILL in fact decrease bed depth and increase efficiency.
3. Motors are sized to accomodate the total static weight of the body that the motor has to turn from a dead stop. On electric motors for VS, that typically are hi startup torque or hi efficiency standard motor but, twice the hp if using standard TEFC motor.
We only need lots of amps at start but, once the heavy side of the shaft or counterweighted wheel turns over the 12 oclock position.......we are off and running and will run at half motor amps from then on.
4. Different designed bodies require different motor configurations. Modules are driven SEPARATELY or independently requiring smaller hp per module vs ONE BIG BODY which requires more HP to start and to drive.
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thanks george
did you miss this part? hope you can continue....
Q: Considering top deck screening area only, both screens are not capable of doing the job.
The purpose of new VS is to screen out +25mm (+25mm in the feed varies from 2% to 7%) and I don’t understand why we need double deck screen with 25mm/20mm aperture. Can you comment on this?
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2 Decks Better Than One
Probably because if only one deck at 25mm......the BED DEPTH or thickness of the MAT of material on one deck only would in fact EXCEED the VSMA rules FOR recommended bed depth at a specific opening.
VSMA states the BED DEPTH at the "discharge end" or 20 foot mark in this case should NOT EXCEED 3 times the opening in the wirecloth or other media.
If we tried to do this all on one deck only.......the bed depth at this tonnage would probably exceed 3 times 25mm DEEP...and this would cause the screener to carryover FINES....due to the stroke not being able to stratify the COARSE to allow fines to find their way thru the 25mm opening.
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Re: Vs Assessment For -25mm Limestone
thanks again
i should do my homework instead of just asking around
my role as a project engineer is to evaluate a tender
without understanding how these machines work, my judgement is baseless
could you suggest any book or handbook and where can i get them?
rgds ■
Screen Pic
BOTH styles would easily do the job.
1. Screening at 25mm (1") most VSMA and other screen manufactures charts will identify you should easily pass 3.13 TPH per square foot of screen on the low side to 3.56 STPH per square foot on the high side.
Let's take an average: and call it 3.35 STPH passing per sq foot
2. So....850 STPH divided by 254 square feet of screening area is theoretically required to do this job. 10x24 = 240 sq feet x 2 decks = 480 sq feet availability. YOUR machine E10242
2. Other assumptions are 18-20 degree slope 100# per cu foot weight of material and screening at 95% efficiency
3. The other OMNI units are not enough square footage to do the job. The differential slopes are no prob, and basically will help vs hinder production rates.
4. Crushed limestone is pretty free flowing granular material and nice to screen
5. You will want to make sure the STROKE or circle on the screen we picked above is set up properly to do the 25mm separation. YOu will want to be 3/8" stroke around 850 plus/minus RPM range running WITH the FLOW of material not uphill or counterflow.
Hoping this is remotely helpful. George Baker - Moderator ■
Oops, A Slight Adder
In reviewing my post, i see I said both units would do the job...but as mentioned further in the posting.......only one has enough square footage to do the job.
Sorry bout that. Keep Smiling.
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Re: Vs Assessment For -25mm Limestone
thanks a lot! now i am beginning to see the tip of an iceberg...
and exploring more.
as i stated earlier, we have to limit the fines in the coarse. the supplier propose the 2nd deck aperture is 20mm and what is the purpose of it? why need 2nd deck?
why not double the size of top deck (single deck vs)?
say if i change the aperture size (same width x length; in the future) to 20mm for some reason, can i the vs handle the same incoming capasity?
i don't get #5. "set up properly" - is it something to do with the erection or design?
when we specify vs capacity, do we specify the feed or the fines
appreciate your advise. rgds. faisul ■
VS assessment for -25mm limestone
dear all
I am in the process of selecting a VS screening -25mm limestone at 850tph. The course in fines should be -5% so does the fines in course <5%. We have 2 types of VS, please advise me which one is better.
1. e10242
2 Deck / aperture 25mm, 20mm / Wire mesh Ø7
3000mmW x 7200mmL / 800rpm / 8.5 amplitude / 20° incl
drive 37kW x 2 (vbelt-motor)
2. omniS
2x8'x10' - sd (2 modules-25°/20°/15°)
Aperture 28mm sq / mesh Ø6 / Direct force vibrator
drive 11kW x 4nos
rgds
Faisul ■