Frank Hahn
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Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 9. May. 2005 - 03:35

Originally posted by yash

We need to dry the coal ( size -6 = 60 % , 6 to 10 =35 % ) with mositure content 16 to 22 % to a level of about 10 % using some crude kind of dryer ( may be tray type or otherwise) which could be used on a semi continuous basis ( approx 5 tph capacity)

Need help on the type of dryer and suppliers for the same

We found a very good dryer company, which can supply the dryer

for coal and lignite.

They have rich expierence in this field.

If you need they can supply:

- Test result of the test field

- Erection

- key parts supply and partly locally

If you need further information, please contact me.

Frank Hahn

Drying Of Coal Using Micro Wave Radiation

Erstellt am 11. Jan. 2007 - 09:58

Drying of Coal using micro wave radiation

We carried out many tests, using micro wave for heat treatment of coal.

Ergun , H. , D. Wagener , H. Fach : Heat Treatment of Coal.

UK Patent Application GB 2017744 A , Patent Office London, 10. 10. 1979 .

Ergun , H. , D. Wagener , H. Fach : Heat Treatment of Coal.

Canadian Patent , C. R. Cl. 202-4 ,CA 1135652 , Patent Office Ottawa ,16. 11. 1982 .

It is also possible to carbonize the coal by using micro waves..

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Drying Coal

Erstellt am 20. Jul. 2007 - 08:25

HOLO-FLO units have been used for drying coal. Very efficient and less downtime. Compact and very easy to operate. HOLO-FLO are hollow flight screws allowing the heat transfer medium to circulate inside the flights and jacketed housing. The heat exchange is indirect and therefore there is no contamination. Coal can be tricky to handle at high temperature. However, our experience in handling coal allow us to incorporate our design to help minimize or eliminate flow problems at high temperature. If you are interested, please send us your application info at jiggger2003@yahoo.com and we can provide you with sizing and price estimates. P.S. HOLO-FLO units are also sometimes used as pyrolyzer.

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 21. Jul. 2007 - 03:38

Is simply blowing your hot flue gas though the 5 tph crude enough for your purposes? You have to boil off 12% of 5tph, although the water is denser. So lets say you have to get rid of about, your input, 600kg of steam.

Do some preliminary enthalpy sourcing to see if your gas can provide. As the previous replies clearly affirm...nobody is going to admit that their pride & joy equipment is some crude kind of dryer.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 3. Dec. 2007 - 10:39

Dear Learey

Is the MW dryer aplicable for belt conveyor (coal) flow about 1500t/h and speed 2 m/sec ? or does the system need special conveyor or special condition? and how much maximum conveyor capacity or speed or width can be handled?

Assume Coal TM 30% with Free Moisture 18% and Inherent Moisture 12%, We need reduce TM from 30% to 15%, what kind the composition of 15% remain mosture after MW dryer?

Thanks

Huri Amri

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 5. Dec. 2007 - 03:30

The systems needs own conveyor belt or multiple conveyor belts depending on the effieciency of the coal, amount of moisture wanting to be reduced. As a generailisation, it takes 0.3 - 0.45kw per litre removed depending on the coal. The system generally operates at 15 - 25tph depending on the duty, so you need to add streams to get to your total throughput.

Suggest you e-mail me seperatly with more detail. tlearey@dbaglobal.net

mall
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Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 13. Dec. 2007 - 10:08

hi there

for microwave dryer for coal may i know what is the max tonnage per hour and kwh/mt of coal (power consumption) please

regards

Economics Behind Microwave Drying

Erstellt am 25. Dec. 2007 - 06:44

The cost of revoming water from coal ranges from 0.2 - 0.4 kw per litre removed, depending on if the water removed is free moisture or inherent moisture. The tonnage though the Drycol unit depends on the amount of water wanting to be removed. So the number of machines and capital cost is very dependent of the job being done.

First step is testwork on the coal to determine the efficiency of the water removal. Anyone who tries to calculate the economics without test work could be 200% out.

Happy to talk with anyone regarding test work programs.

www.dbaglobal.net

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 5. Dec. 2007 - 11:12

Huri,

I suggest that you remove as much free water as you can by building a sieve bend into a fixed tripper. After that you can consider removing some more water by the means suggested above.

There is a very wide line between dewatering & drying. eg if you threw more water at the mixture until you could filter it you could get the moisture down quite low..but who would do such a thing?

1500 tph @ 2m/s is a fair throughput & it seems that a simple mechanical screen would greatly help while the sludge is already on a fair sized belt. Most of your free water will have percolated towards the belt so if you can arrange a sympathetic trajectory the sieve bends can get rid of quite a lot of it very conveniently.

www.ludomin.com is a good starting place to look up.

Incidentally I have just realised that a sieve bend would be an excellent way to remove ponding troubles from stockyard belts.

Are the Florida & Dynasty Clubs still thriving in Merak & Cilegon?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 5. Dec. 2007 - 10:10

John,

Not sure if you appreciated that the coal is not a sludge, it just comes out of the ground at 30% moisture. It would not free drain any water. Even a centrafuge would do very little.

For this type of coal, most of the moisture is 'interstitial' and 'inherent'...so there is only two options.

1. Thermal dryer

2. Drycol microwave unit

Both expensive, but the upside with microwave is the reduced operationg cost, coal loss and the reduced fire risk.

Trevor.

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 6. Dec. 2007 - 04:20

I developed clean up systems for 8000 tph coal carrying lines at Selby coalfield in the UK in 1985 & reckon I am quite familiar with wet coal. I have seen water gushing out of the closed side observation doors & experienced dribblings conveyor failures from overloading. Those were 17% total moisture conditions!

18% free moisture is quoted! That is 4.5 tpm.

Coal to Suralaya has not just come out of the ground; it has been stored in the rain in Kalimantan; lightered by barge onto the ship ( or possibly barged to Merak direct ) & then stored out in tropical monsoon conditions awaiting feed to the boiler bunkers.

If the boilers had been designed to burn 30% moisture r-o-m then there would not be a problem now. My contention that a sieve bend can drop the moisture to almost acceptable limits, for further treatment, is quite valid: at least as valid as proposing 100 - 60 stream segments!

Huri, If you make a coarser blend you will get slightly less catchment water.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Graham Wallis
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Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 9. Dec. 2007 - 05:18

Hello,

I came across your inquiry for some simple coal drying technology. i am seeking same for a client in Sumatra.

howver the tonange is much greater than yo were considering.

can you share some thoughts with me regarding this subject.

thanks and regards

graham

veeramani
(not verified)

Coal Drying

Erstellt am 23. Dec. 2007 - 11:15

A quantity of about 1500 tons of coal to be dried per day of moisture about 20% . any special unit was developed for drying coals in power plant??

it is the necessary for our plant during the winter season to sustain the generation levels.

do sugesset if any .

Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 24. Dec. 2007 - 10:07

Originally posted by johngateley

Coal to Suralaya has not just come out of the ground; it has been stored in the rain in Kalimantan; lightered by barge onto the ship ( or possibly barged to Merak direct ) & then stored out in tropical monsoon conditions awaiting feed to the boiler bunkers.

If the boilers had been designed to burn 30% moisture r-o-m then there would not be a problem now. My contention that a sieve bend can drop the moisture to almost acceptable limits,

Your mention of Suralaya caught my eye because I used to visit there from time to time when I was with the company that provided the first 3700 MWe of boilers. I was not aware of a moisture problem.

I would appreciate an informed opinion regarding Turkish Lignite reported to have 21.5% ash and 52.5% moisture. What are the practical measures for reducing moisture to a reasonable level? Or is the 52% moisture a red herring?

My scepticism results from PLTU Banjarmasin project, which was going to burn Kalimantan coal and was specified for 50+% moisture, but I don't know if it ever got that wet.

Lignite Drying

Erstellt am 25. Dec. 2007 - 08:24

Can anyone provide some advice on drying of Turkish Lignite? Reported properties include 52% moisture and 22% ash, which I have assumed is on an as-received basis, given the heating value of only 1130kcal/kg (LHV).

Does anyone have any details on the fluidized bed dryer that was used at Coal Creek in Nebraska, USA?

veeramani
(not verified)

Re: Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 12. Jan. 2008 - 10:26

Originally posted by Frank Hahn



We found a very good dryer company, which can supply the dryer

for coal and lignite.

They have rich expierence in this field.

If you need they can supply:

- Test result of the test field

- Erection

- key parts supply and partly locally

If you need further information, please contact me.

Frank Hahn

veeramani
(not verified)

Coal Drying Unit

Erstellt am 12. Jan. 2008 - 10:29

I am also looking for the coal drying unit which is should be capable of drying 100 tons of coal per hour of moisture 22% to 30%.

basically, it is for the purpose of power generating unit of installed capacity 90 mw.due to more moisture in the coal bunkers as well as coal feeders getting choked affecting the power generation. if ther any manufacturers of coal dryers which can remove a moisture of about 10 to 15% will help a lot for our business.if there any manufacturers of coal dryers in india?

please help me .

Riera Nadeu
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Re: Coal Drying

Erstellt am 30. Jan. 2008 - 11:14

Dear Yash,

I attach you some information that can help you.

If you want you can contact with us and we study your process:

rinajet ts.esp_eng1_1

href="mailto:comercial@rieranadeu.com">comercial@rieranadeu.com

Regards,

David

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Coal Drying

Erstellt am 19. May. 2008 - 08:46

Dear Mr. Yash,

Irrespective of which drying technology you use, you will surely benefit from online moisture analysis. Our Australian Principal CALLIDAN is the world leader in Online Moisture Analysis and manufactures and markets online moisture analysers that use microwave technology. Please feel free to visit our principal's site at www.callidan.com for more information. Regards

Jitendra RoyChoudhury

Business Development Manager

Salva Resources

Mob: +9198300 44856

Mail: j.roychoudhury@salvaresources.com

Web: www.callidan.com

mizun
(not verified)

Coal Drier

Erstellt am 16. Jul. 2008 - 10:38

Hi Yash:

Email me your communicationd details and you will receive a lucrative offer from my company.

Mizun

mizun@bol.net.in

For Coal Drying

Erstellt am 16. Jul. 2008 - 11:05

Dear yash,

Please specify if the moisture you asre talking about is surface moisture or total moisture of coal. If you are specific about surface moisture we could suggest using a centrifugal dryer to reduce the moisture of coal. If the total moisture has to be reduced to levels specified by you then only thermal drying would be of help. You might have to work out the cost of heating. Generally for quantities such as 5TPH we would stock the coal in a dry place near a source of heat like a kiln which can redeuce the moisture content of coal virtually free of cost.

We would suggest you to let us know the moisture and maybe we have a solution.

With regards

Sandeep

veeramani
(not verified)

Re: Drying Coal

Erstellt am 3. Sep. 2008 - 11:50

Originally posted by jigsaw

HOLO-FLO units have been used for drying coal. Very efficient and less downtime. Compact and very easy to operate. HOLO-FLO are hollow flight screws allowing the heat transfer medium to circulate inside the flights and jacketed housing. The heat exchange is indirect and therefore there is no contamination. Coal can be tricky to handle at high temperature. However, our experience in handling coal allow us to incorporate our design to help minimize or eliminate flow problems at high temperature. If you are interested, please send us your application info at jiggger2003@yahoo.com and we can provide you with sizing and price estimates. P.S. HOLO-FLO units are also sometimes used as pyrolyzer.



Kindly give me ur contact details to approach.

veeramani
(not verified)

Coal Dryer

Erstellt am 7. Sep. 2008 - 12:04

Kindly give me ur contact information.

The Ultimate Coal Dryer - Lf Pumping

Erstellt am 12. Feb. 2009 - 08:58

LF Pumping guarrantees savings over any traditional drying methods. The LamiFlo System is the true environmental drying system as we don't use natural resources to generate heat, thus offering massive operating savings, with a reduced carbon footprint.

With energy prices set to rise over the next 5 years, we know this system will be of great interest to you, either as a pre-dryer for your existing drying systems or as a standalone drying, pumping or material handling unit.

The key Points associated with this unique environmental system, compared to any known rotary, ventura, vibrating fluid bed, or static fluid bed drying systems for materials are:-

•Guaranteed energy savings, as there is no requirement for any gas, gas/oil or diesel fuels, to generate heat source to dry materials.

•Reduced carbon footprint.

•Operational advantages throughout the transportation, drying, and delivery process.

•Compact size.

•Guaranteed Low maintenance costs.

•Minimal disruption of integrating system in to current process line.

•Liquids, sludges, and aggregates up to 75mm.

•Bespoke systems can dry sand from 60% moisture content down to 0.3%.

•Bespoke systems can handle up to 500 tonnes per hour.

What materials can be dry, pump, or material handle? http://lfpumping.com/material-handling.php

We are confident that this system offers to you the very latest cutting edge technology, packed with financial and delivery savings. We look forward to discussing all your transporting, drying, crushing, and grading applications.

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Erstellt am 20. Feb. 2009 - 04:44

I too nee your mail id so that I can forward you some interesting notes on that.

Lf Pumping - Operating Costs For Drying 250 Tonnes Coal

Erstellt am 20. Feb. 2009 - 05:19

250 tonnes per hour capacity, (LF Pumping canhandle from 1 tonne to 500 tonnes per hour) with coal moisture content of 18% to be reduced down to a target moisture content of 3%.



LamiFloTM Coal Drying

1. Energy Usage (MJ) / tonne 6.34

- Gasoil (litres) / tonne NA

- Electricity (kW) / tonne1.76

2. Operating Costs (£) / tonne*£0.12

3. Carbon Emissions (kg) / tonne0.94 kg

Based on £0.07 per kWh.

The LF Pumping Coal Dryer will move coal up to 500 metres and dry in the same process, crushing is also available with this dryer.

www.lfpumping.com