Re: Cold Vulcanising Solution
Dear Wahid Hamza,
Cutting cement with the base solvent used in the cement is viable. However, you must be careful. All of the solvent you add must volatilize before you marry the bond area. If you do not allow this, you will trap solvent in the bond and get poor results.
Your best option is to talk to your cement manufacturer to determine what solvent can be used and how much can be safely used.
As far as the composition of the cold bonding solutions are concerned, that is propriatary information. Although the base rubber is generally polychloroprene, there can be many additives.
The hardener is more difficult to mix without moisture contamination and I suggest that you do not attempt it.
Check your MSDS for an overview of the chemicals used. Again, this will not give you a recipe or a mixing procedure.
Unless you are using many drumfulls, it is not economically feasible to produce your own. The development cost for these products would be approximately US$30,000 to $50,000.
Regards, ■
Cold Cement Available To Handle Clinker Belts With ≫200 Deg.…
Thanks for the information. But, why is it so expensive to manufacture? I think each KG of cement manufacturing cost is around 1US$, as per one booklet on rubber adhesives. Hardner, yes is a costly affair.
Is there any .?
Pls. inform, if available and give prioce per Kg.
Thanks,
Wahid ■
Re: Cold Vulcanising Solution
Dear Wahid Hamza,
It isn't too expensive to manufacture, although $1/KG appears slightly low. The expense is in the development time - even when you start with a base formula supplied by a manufacturer. Expect to make and test many formulae variations before you get one that you are satisfied with. ■
Re: Cold Vulcanising Solution
Adding to AMD comments:
Toluene disolves rubber or put another way, dilutes it. Adding toluene to a usable, but viscous cement, will reduce its strength.
Therefore, be careful on how you use toluene.
Lawrence Nordell
Conveyor Dynamics, Inc.
ww.conveyor-dynamic.com ■
Tolulene
Larry,
How does Tolulene effect the surface area of a splice or repair if you are using it as a solvent to clean the area prior to application of adhesives.
This is used widely here in Australia
Regards
Shane ■
Re: Cold Vulcanising Solution
Toluene and Trichloroethylene will not have any harmful effects on splice or repairs to either rubber or fabric if used within the guidelines.
Most manufacturers recommend the use of these products for cleaning purposes and in most cases make up the base compound of their Hot and Cold solutions.
Toluene is generally used for Hot splicing and Trichloroethylene for cold.
Trichloroethylene is used to dilute Rema SC2000 and to freshen up the Rema uncured and cured rubber product’s.
It is also used as their splice cleaning solvents. ■
Re: Cold Vulcanising Solution
1. I would NOT recommend Diluting ANY Cold Vulcanising Solution, IT WILL Descrease it's strengthening capabilities.
2. We use Rema's SC2000, (and have so for many years) it is Tryco based, and IS suitable for Underground use, BUT Toluene is Highly FLAMMABLE and is NOT acceptable for Underground use(if this is an issue for you)
3. The Hardener used with the SC2000 from my understanding is a similiar product to (DESMIR DIR) THE ORANGE/RED DIP USED IN GIVING RAW FABRIC IT'S BONDING CAPABILITIES.
With out it the Fabric WILL NOT adhere to the Rubber/Ply.
Same as if a Beltman Buffs up the Fabric (whitens it) it also will not bond in the Vulcanising Process.
corey.... ■
Cold vulcanising solution
I am a regular user of vulcanising solution. I am buying some solution, which is highly viscous. some one told, if i add toluene to it, i can make it easily flowable, to use for cold lining of acid tanks.
Can i mix toluene? If so, how much will be the life of the cement?
What is the composition of cold bonding solution? If we want to manufacture for our use?
What is hardner made up of? ■