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Re: Modulus Testing
Dear Andrew,
Belt elastic modulus is not single valued. It is dependent on the following:
1. tension or compression deformation - very non-linear
2. temperature can have extreme effect into the glass transition and is very non-linear see or papers on E';E"
3. histogram changes with use including Payne effect or Mullins effect
4. strain-rate can alter modulus such as cyclic frequency response and strain values can change the modulus
5. modulus can change with change in density which can be dependent on the above
What are you studying? How will you apply the knowledge? ■
Iso9856
Larry,
Thanks for your response.
I am not in a position to question the methodology of ISO with regards to their standard. I am sure they took much, if not all of this into consideration when developing their standard and even if they didn’t I still must follow their standard to allow me to compare my findings to others who used the same standard of testing.
Providing I find a reputable testing lab who can follow the standard I should be able to say that under ISO9856 my findings can be generally compared to other ISO9856 findings.
To do anything more may make them more relevant but less comparable.
So the question still remains who in the world can perform ISO9856 testing? ■
Re: Modulus Testing
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Re: Modulus Testing
As a side note:
If you take the same sample, at the same temperature, and execute the tensile modulus test with the exact same specifications, you will not obtain the same result. The higher the pulling force, the greater the difference in subsequent measurements.
I do not dispute you interest and your need to apply the procedure, I only wish to inform on some mysteries that may come to light. Polymers do not behave in similar ways to metals.
In a court of law, the properties need a comprehensive qualification, if they are applied to a question of engineering. ■
Re: Modulus Testing
Thanks,
Interesting information. ■
Modulus Testing
Where can I get reputable, independent, pay per incident ISO9856 testing on conveyor belting?
"ISO 9856:2003 : Conveyor belts - Determination of elastic and permanent elongation and calculation of elastic modulus"
Thanks,
Andrew Butterworth
AFM Industries ■